2024 Off-season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Ped]

Well, Rossi was a 9th overall pick, and in his first full season, after some COVID health issues, he had 40 points in 82 games on a team that only outscored 11 other teams. In a year like this though, you wait and see who is the board when your pick comes up.

[Harry Lime]

Rossi is an odd situation. Minnesota doesn't want to waste any more years of prime kaprosov.

Rossi has a ceiling of mid range 1st line and floor of really good 3rd line center. Minnesota also owns all of their 1st and 2nd round picks.

I'd offer draft picks, 50% mangiapane, cap relief for a player they no longer want, and any second tier prospect that strikes their fancy....

For Rossi and a 2025 1st that has stipulations that make an unrestricted 2026 McKenna bullet a real possibility.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

If you google "Does Marner want to stay in Toronto", you'll find many recent articles that quotes him.

And the best way to do that is not not approve a trade. Does Tree let him walk for nothing? THose might be his choices.

Now you are correct that could change. Or not. Calgary was not home to Johnny, big difference. Marner has spent his entire life in Toronto and the surrounding area.

I see a number of quotes where he says ‘that would be the goal’ in reference to wanting to stay.

I’m not sure why Marner wouldn’t consider a move. To your point he’ll have a say.

[robertsfanatic]

why not look at the other Leaf who they may want to move - Tavares?

Tavares plus either their first or a prospect (or both) for future considerations (maybe Mang?) to help them free up space?

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by bax

Saw a while back (season end presser maybe) Conroy talking about potentially trading picks for 23 and under players. He specifically mentions Montreal doing this (Newhook and Dach).

Rumor has it Minnesota is taking calls on Rossi. Seems like exactly the type of situation Conroy is looking for.

Personally, I wouldn’t do it. I would hoard picks and just take my swings at the draft but I think Conroy would be all over this.

I do think Rossi has a ton of potential though. Like I said wouldn’t be my strategy but I don’t hate the player at all.

This is why I think Hayton could be an interesting player.

[Royle9]

Hayton is past a reclamation at this point.
Sadly he’s more of a bust, and often injured having 2 major injuries in both 2022 and now 2024.

I’d toss an amateur contract at him to find his game in the AHL but we’ve got a handful of guys putting up better numbers already.



Rossi would be a reclamation project, but he’s far from being worth 9th overall, I doubt that’s what it would cost.. more so a late first, but even then I’m not sure I’d give that up either.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by robertsfanatic

why not look at the other Leaf who they may want to move - Tavares?

Tavares plus either their first or a prospect (or both) for future considerations (maybe Mang?) to help them free up space?

I don’t think that makes sense for either side.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Hayton is past a reclamation at this point.
Sadly he’s more of a bust, and often injured having 2 major injuries in both 2022 and now 2024.

I’d toss an amateur contract at him to find his game in the AHL but we’ve got a handful of guys putting up better numbers already.



Rossi would be a reclamation project, but he’s far from being worth 9th overall, I doubt that’s what it would cost.. more so a late first, but even then I’m not sure I’d give that up either.

19 goals as a 22 year old is a bust?

[Ped]

Tavares has a full NMC. He's not going anywhere unless he waives, and he hasn't seem particularly interested in it, and if he is, I doubt it would be to Calgary.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by robertsfanatic

why not look at the other Leaf who they may want to move - Tavares?

Tavares plus either their first or a prospect (or both) for future considerations (maybe Mang?) to help them free up space?

Taveras has a full nmc, and is closer to a cup in Toronto than calgary. That looks funny, written out.

[dammage79]

Rossi is a rather tot of a center. Is he skilled enough to bloom into a top line player? His points production in the AHL is similar to Wright or Lambert or Raty. Is he worth investing draft capital into?? I honestly don't know.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Rossi would be a reclamation project, but he’s far from being worth 9th overall, I doubt that’s what it would cost.. more so a late first, but even then I’m not sure I’d give that up either.

He’s 22 and got 40 points in his first full season.

He’s likely closer to being their first line centre than being a reclamation project.

[robertsfanatic]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I don’t think that makes sense for either side.

Originally Posted by Ped

Tavares has a full NMC. He's not going anywhere unless he waives, and he hasn't seem particularly interested in it, and if he is, I doubt it would be to Calgary.

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Taveras has a full nmc, and is closer to a cup in Toronto than calgary. That looks funny, written out.

oh I get it but what if a handshake deal is made that the Flames move him at the deadline to a contender - retention makes it easier.

no contenders can fit his $11M and the speculation (in Toronto media) is that he will be asked to waive....and it is only for one year.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by robertsfanatic

oh I get it but what if a handshake deal is made that the Flames move him at the deadline to a contender - retention makes it easier.

no contenders can fit his $11M and the speculation (in Toronto media) is that he will be asked to waive....and it is only for one year.

Tavares is not going anywhere. You would have a much better chance of somehow convincing Marner to move.

[ComixZone]

Stop looking for short cuts and put in the effort to draft and develop your own players.

There's no shortcutting this process, and if you go looking to do so all you're going to end up doing is hurting the long term ceiling of your team.

Draft. Develop. Patience is a virtue.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

I heard a segment on the fan this morning that talked about Ottawa being a goaltender away from pushing for a playoff spot - they were something like 35-2 when they got .900 goaltending and 2-38 without it.

Markstrom + 9 for 7th overall. Add pieces around the edges as necessary.

Who says no? (Besides Markstrom, most likely.)

You'd give up Markstrom to move up 2 spots? That's horrible value.

And you'd probably end up drafting the exact same player anyway.

[AustinL_NHL]

After the top two (Celebrini/Demidov <- if Demidov goes as he should lol), you can argue that the next batch of 3-12 (maybe 13 depending on Eiserman thoughts) are all in the same tier.

Giving up an asset, let along a significant one to stay in effectively the same spot would be a fire-on-the-spot decision.

The key is if the Flames can add to the Canucks pick to get a second pick in that 12-13 range.

[Badgers Nose]

I really hope we use our cap to get picks for salary dumps (1-2 year left contracts).

Fills our roster and can double dip at TDL.

[RedHawk12]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Stop looking for short cuts and put in the effort to draft and develop your own players.

There's no shortcutting this process, and if you go looking to do so all you're going to end up doing is hurting the long term ceiling of your team.

Draft. Develop. Patience is a virtue.

100% agree. That's why it's so hard to rebuild in a Canadian market. There's so much pressure from the fanbase to shortcut the process. Even when we draft one superstar, the pressure will be on to build around that one guy and get in the playoffs again.

You look at the teams that win cups - they all have MULTIPLE home-grown star players, typically drafted very high after many years of basement-dwelling. Otherwise, you're at most building a team that will be 1st round playoff fodder.

[CFO]

Rather flames trade markstrom for a couple seconds.