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Old 05-06-2024, 07:25 PM   #2601
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To me it makes absolutely no sense for the Flames to go after Marner
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Old 05-06-2024, 07:27 PM   #2602
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To me it makes absolutely no sense for the Flames to go after Marner
It makes a lot of sense.

Apparently we need to start winning right away.

1st, Coronato, Zary for Marner and a 4th.
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Old 05-06-2024, 07:48 PM   #2603
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And Florida would do that why?

If Reinhart does a sign a trade, his value would equate to Marner, more or less, as long as Marner signed. In which case Florida would just keep Reinhart.
They wouldn’t. It was obviously a jab at Treliving. Did you feel the draft at least?
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Old 05-06-2024, 07:59 PM   #2604
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Marner for Pietrangelo floated by some
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Old 05-06-2024, 08:14 PM   #2605
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Trading their scapegoat for Vegas' lol
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Old 05-06-2024, 08:15 PM   #2606
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Petro is 34 years old lol
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Old 05-06-2024, 08:24 PM   #2607
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Marner for Pietrangelo floated by some
This is not that crazy IMO. I had suggested Marner for Karlsson + 1st round pick. Leafs need defence. There is not much in free agency and the market for marner without retention might be limited - especially with his NTC. So if the leafs want a pick moving defenceman, guy like Pietrangelo or Karlsson might be a fit. The trades work cap hit wise and could bring something each team is looking for.

The alternative is Toronto tries to trade Marner for straight futures (picks + prospects) and tries to use those assets to trade with other teams (that are not interested in Marner) in order to improve their defence. In those cases, they could go after guys like Andersson and/or Chychrun.
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This is not that crazy IMO. I had suggested Marner for Karlsson + 1st round pick. Leafs need defence. There is not much in free agency and the market for marner without retention might be limited - especially with his NTC. So if the leafs want a pick moving defenceman, guy like Pietrangelo or Karlsson might be a fit. The trades work cap hit wise and could bring something each team is looking for.

The alternative is Toronto tries to trade Marner for straight futures (picks + prospects) and tries to use those assets to trade with other teams (that are not interested in Marner) in order to improve their defence. In those cases, they could go after guys like Andersson and/or Chychrun.

It's completely crazy.

As I said Petro is 34 years old, he'll be 35 mid next season.

The Leafs would be nuts to trade a 27 year old perennial 90 point forward for a soon to be 35 year old Dman.
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Old 05-06-2024, 08:32 PM   #2609
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It's completely crazy.

As I said Petro is 34 years old, he'll be 35 mid next season.

The Leafs would be nuts to trade a 27 year old perennial 90 point forward for a soon to be 35 year old Dman.
Not only that I don't want Mitch Marner feeding Jack Eichel pucks.
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Old 05-06-2024, 08:33 PM   #2610
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The word out there is that Winnipeg Jets might be willing to part with Nikolaj Ehlers, the Flames could look at a trade involving Mangipane.

Might be a good swap for both teams.
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Old 05-06-2024, 08:39 PM   #2611
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The word out there is that Winnipeg Jets might be willing to part with Nikolaj Ehlers, the Flames could look at a trade involving Mangipane.

Might be a good swap for both teams.
That I'd be interested in.
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He has a NTC. I mean he’s in Winnipeg.

Really makes no sense for us, unless we get another asset back.
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It's completely crazy.

As I said Petro is 34 years old, he'll be 35 mid next season.

The Leafs would be nuts to trade a 27 year old perennial 90 point forward for a soon to be 35 year old Dman.
The futures package they get will be mediocre so they will have to settle for the best dman they can get. I wonder if Doughty would want out of LA.
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Old 05-06-2024, 08:58 PM   #2614
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Ehlers puts up points and sometimes looks fantastic. But he disappears in tough games and he was pretty bad in the Colorado series.

Plus, why do the Flames need to add a guy like that at this stage in their cycle?
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Ehlers puts up points and sometimes looks fantastic. But he disappears in tough games and he was pretty bad in the Colorado series.

Plus, why do the Flames need to add a guy like that at this stage in their cycle?
If the cost was Mangiapane I’d do it and then try and flip Ehlers at the deadline lol

Also Friedman speculated the leafs are looking at
jones. Do it Tre
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Old 05-06-2024, 09:13 PM   #2616
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Ehlers puts up points and sometimes looks fantastic. But he disappears in tough games and he was pretty bad in the Colorado series.

Plus, why do the Flames need to add a guy like that at this stage in their cycle?
He had a good season but he didn't play well in the playoffs, he's a bit bigger, both players are the same age. Sometimes it works for the better. He's got one year left on his deal. I watched the year end exit interview Mangipane and Huberdeau just went on about how they could be better and learn from it. Ehler might be a better fit and if not we can still unload him. Ehlers plus rating and overall points ware a little a little better than Mangipane.

Colorado is a tough team obviously he didn't play well against them.
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What if Elhers sucks here, we will get nothing of value back. He also makes 1.5 more than Mangipane.

We will get a better futures package for Mangiapane. A more managable salary for a team if we retain.
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Old 05-06-2024, 09:16 PM   #2618
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What if Elhers sucks here, we will get nothing of value back. He also makes 1.5 more than Mangipane.

We will get a better futures package for Mangiapane. A more managable salary for a team if we retain.
I don’t know if teams will give up futures for him. Not good ones
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What if Elhers sucks here, we will get nothing of value back. He also makes 1.5 more than Mangipane.

We will get a better futures package for Mangiapane. A more managable salary for a team if we retain.
Mangiapane is worth like a 3rd or something. I’d gamble on Ehlers being worth more
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If Ehlers was available for Mangi then Craig should start the car.
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