Israel declares war on Hamas

[_Q_]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

This is pure nonsense. If Israel opened its borders for anyone and everyone, there would be no Israel. You know this perfectly well. The ideal state is status quo for those living there, with rights, and freedoms and all the other benefits Israel offers. Bringing into the country the same people wishing death to Israel is not a good idea.

Israel is a country, just like Jordan is a country, just like Lebanon, just like Syria, just like Egypt. None of those countries have to let in people nor do you expect them to. Israel is not taking you up on your advice since it is suicide.

No, the status quo isn't going to work long term. No group of people would accept being subjugated and dominated by another just to make their lives easier.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

This is pure nonsense. If Israel opened its borders for anyone and everyone, there would be no Israel. You know this perfectly well. The ideal state is status quo for those living there, with rights, and freedoms and all the other benefits Israel offers. Bringing into the country the same people wishing death to Israel is not a good idea.

Israel is a country, just like Jordan is a country, just like Lebanon, just like Syria, just like Egypt. None of those countries have to let in people nor do you expect them to. Israel is not taking you up on your advice since it is suicide.

I bet the Arabs living in modern day Israel pre-1948 would wholeheartedly agree lol.

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

Yes, a Muslim can walk freely in Israel, could live there and work there too. There is no segregation at all. Except for Muslim neighborhoods, where it can get iffy for other religions to live there. Can a jew walk around in West Bank or Gaza? Not a good idea, but possible (not all areas).

Very equal! They just need to travel on different roads. Can't attend the same schools. Are discriminated against daily and live in poorer neighborhood. Don't have access to the same health care. Israel truly is a beacon of democracy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Israel

Read up on this Nage. It is filled with multiple sources and studies that show the differences the Israeli government and its citizens treats it's arab population and even it's Ethiopian Jewish population. Racism is very alive in Israel and no matter what propaganda you post, it won't make it disappear or make it not true.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by pylon

What in gods green earth are you reading, I never did any of those things?

The open anti-semitism is coming from the Hamas/Woke student side.

And never once, did I brush off dead children. It's an absolute tragedy and needs to stop. Raping people. And killing children are both horrific acts.

It is sad to me, my last post on this website is to defend being gaslit by.... I don't know what type of evil you are... but here we are.

You are a typical leftist. All or nothing. I have had a pretty moderate down the middle view on this whole thing, calling out both sides. But like the radical leftist you are, that's just not enough.

Be well, and I hope you find peace in your life.

Very down the middle.

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by Beninho

You are a fool if you believe there are not massive antisemitic undertones in many of these protests. And to deny someone, who has been critical of Israel in this thread, their own experience with antisemitism is pretty gross. Do you believe Pylon is lying? But I mean it makes sense for someone like you who cheered for Iran to attack Israel and has made it known they hate all Zionists. Not exactly a pro-peace message you are propagating.

So if 90% of Jews agree with zionism in one form or another, does that mean you hate 90% of Jews? You have made it clear you hate all Zionists. I think you have an extremely low understanding of Jews and Jewish culture and incredibly ignorant. You can in fact be a Zionist and want a ceasefire. You can be a Zionist and want a peaceful 2 state solution. There are in fact various forms of Zionism and in reality it is silly to use this word anyways because Israel already exists and you can just say Likud supporters or members of the Israeli far right, but you seemed hell pressed on stating you just hate Zionists in general. It’s pretty obvious to most Jews that the hijacking of this word into a slur is just another way to say Jew. You’ve done is so many times in this thread ive lost count. Once you start reading “Jews” in replace of “Zionist” the antisemitism really starts to show itself. Like the fact you just straight up dismissed Pylon’s experience with antisemitism while clearly inferring you don’t believe it happened is so crazy to me.

Multiple pages back you stated Jews from New York are moving into the West Bank and kicking out Palestinians. Jews from North America represent less 2% of Israeli immigrants last year and a small minority over the last decade. How is what you said not an antisemitic claim when 98% of Jews immigrating into Israel are not from New York, the US, or Canada. It’s this type of rhetoric that leads to the several bomb threats New York synagogues experienced this past week. There is not a mass immigration movement of Jews from anywhere in North America into the West Bank, and while there may be settler organization groups who are attempting to purchase and sell land in the West Bank, 99.9% of North American and New York Jews are not moving and kicking out Palestinians like you have claimed multiple times.

Dude don't bother replying to my posts until I get an apology for this post and a retraction. You accused me of reading a propaganda twitter account and then when I quoted Ryan Garcia himself you disappeared.

Originally Posted by Beninho

He never pledged to donate 20 million… do you literally only get your news from propaganda accounts on twitter? You got a source for that?

Ryan Garcia is only worth $20 million and a good % of whatever he just made on his last fight will be used on coke and hookers because he is a degenerate human who is great at punching people, not exactly a role model or someone who would actually follow through with a “pledge” for 20 million dollars. What are you going to post next? That Andrew Tate is donating his proceeds from
Sex trafficking to children in Gaza? So weird. Thank you for gracing us with your incredible insight, your posts in this thread always make for a good laugh on the toilet.

You can deflect and call me a genocider, terrorist, baby killer or whatever other insults you have thrown at people here idc, but it is funny seeing you call out others incorrectly for spreading propaganda on the previous page and then literally post a fake story that is only being spread by pro-Palestine propaganda twitter accounts. The “source” that spread this fake story is from a pretend journalist whose twitter account is devoted to spreading hate towards Hindus and Indians while also glorifying the Taliban and Hamas. This is where you get your news from? How people fall for this is beyond me but because I am an actual fan of boxing i felt compelled to find out where this story you posted on here came from as I had not read this anywhere else but here.

In the Russia/Ukraine thread you said Canada had killed more civilians than Russia and it was blatantly obvious there that you consume heavy doses of Iranian and russian propaganda but this just proves it. Again you spread more misinformation on to this site.

I really didn’t want to post in this cesspool thread again, but I just wanted to point out how ridiculous it is for you to repeatedly accuse others of spreading propaganda and then go on and post an actual fake story to prove “people are waking up”. The way you post reminds me of Qanon conspiracists.

Your source for this story, have a look at his page. This is what propaganda looks like.
https://twitter.com/ShaykhSulaiman/s...ilities-israel

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by Beninho

It sounds like you don’t know much about Jews, and given the fact that Jews were also persecuted in the middle east well before the establishment of Israel that seems to be a bit disingenuous of a statement.

It’s ok to admit you aren’t as educated in the history of Jews and may not understand why many Jews feel connected to Israel. I can admit I have a lack of education regarding Palestinians and can learn more. But you seem to be stuck in this “well jews shouldnt be here anyway” train of thought and I don’t think that is a good way at looking this. But hey you do you.

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

Dude don't bother replying to my posts until I get an apology for this post and a retraction. You accused me of reading a propaganda twitter account and then when I quoted Ryan Garcia himself you disappeared.

Champion a far right Trump supporter and spreading conspiracy theories about Jews. Given how much you post on this site over the last couple months it seems that you are lacking community. Maybe go join an encampment where u can make some friends , get outside, and be around your fellow antisemites

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by Beninho

Champion a far right Trump supporter and spreading conspiracy theories about Jews. Given how much you post on this site over the last couple months it seems that you are lacking community. Maybe go join an encampment where u can make some friends , get outside, and be around your fellow antisemites

Typical of you to double down on your lies and accusations. Ryan Garcia pledged to donate 20 million and you said it wasn't true and only a propaganda twitter account was reporting it.

You were wrong lol but typical of you to not care and just go on putting your head in the sand.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Very down the middle.

I’m going to be the bigger person and say I hope he finds peace in his life without calling him an evil leftist Nazi Hamas terrorist sympathizer anti-semite bully.

Sad day. The Socialist CPCP army will miss his moderate views, cool head, passion for civility and free speech absolutism (unless you quote his post).

Thankfully these hard days don’t last.

[nik-]

He's been begging for a confrontation to go out pretending he's a martyr for free speech for months now. Looks like he finally got one he was content with.

Tally up another pylon rage quit. What an absolute goof.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by nik-

He's been begging for a confrontation to go out pretending he's a martyr for free speech for months now. Looks like he finally got one he was content with.

Tally up another pylon rage quit. What an absolute goof.

Kinda thought we were going to get it when he got upset about “piling on” because one single poster made fun of him for not driving his $100k truck in the winter.

That would have been funnier. But this is still pretty funny.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Kinda thought we were going to get it when he got upset about “piling on” because one single poster made fun of him for not driving his $100k truck in the winter.

That would have been funnier. But this is still pretty funny.

Nah, that's would just be "being a snowflake" it's not freedom fighter enough. No self respecting middle aged man is content with just a moderate scene, it's gotta be a big one! Unfortunately no one cares about the scene. I'm just glad we got the rage quit we all knew was coming since he came back. Guaranteed dose of comedy. In his defense, he lasted longer than I thought he would.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by nik-

He's been begging for a confrontation to go out pretending he's a martyr for free speech for months now. Looks like he finally got one he was content with.

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=195358

This was the most obvious attempt ever, more open than a beautiful walk out basement

[Doctorfever]

Move it along. Or start a thread for a poster if you are that infatuated.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

Move it along. Or start a thread for a poster if you are that infatuated.

yus suh, sorry boss

[TherapyforGlencross]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

Very equal! They just need to travel on different roads. Can't attend the same schools. Are discriminated against daily and live in poorer neighborhood. Don't have access to the same health care. Israel truly is a beacon of democracy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Israel

Read up on this Nage. It is filled with multiple sources and studies that show the differences the Israeli government and its citizens treats it's arab population and even it's Ethiopian Jewish population. Racism is very alive in Israel and no matter what propaganda you post, it won't make it disappear or make it not true.

Par for the course though for the Middle East Region though, no? For example, in Kuwait, there’s a thing called second-class citizens, easily revocable citizenship and seen as lesser citizens where societal and economic opportunities are stripped from the person (or at least heavily restricted). Obviously, this does not excuse Israel’s behaviour towards Muslims, but it’s not like nearby countries are beacons of light around those parts.

[Leondros]

Originally Posted by Fl4me5

If reparations included (which they arguably have - I’m not an expert on this so don’t attack me) designating specific areas of indigenous land that are protected, and Canadians started lobbing rockets and suicide bombings in those lands - I would give you every right to defend yourself and fight back.

It’s worse, my grandma and her siblings were put into internment camps (residential schools) where their culture and traditions were taken away from them. Sound like anything the Jewish people may have dealt with? I still stand by the fact that even then those actions are not warranted.

[Leondros]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

Well, hard to respond when your post is filled with hateful rhetoric. Israel isn't in the business of kicking people out of houses, despite what TikToc says.

Israel didn't settle in anyone's living room or whatever you think is happening.

Why it does matter is Israel was one of many nations in the middle east that were un-colonized from the Ottoman Empire (and others before it). Jews were there and got a portion of the land, the smallest portion, while Islamic nations got the rest.

Israel gave equal rights to everyone that was there.

Not really sure what else to add based on whatever your wrote.

I certainly don’t get my news from TikTok and there is more than enough legitimate documentation to claim otherwise in terms of violence in regards to settlements. In terms of hateful rhetoric I have no idea what you are going on about. I was simply making an analogy to how Israelis are currently treating the Palestinian population. Where is this hate you speak of?

[DownInFlames]

This thread sucks.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

Very equal! They just need to travel on different roads. Can't attend the same schools. Are discriminated against daily and live in poorer neighborhood. Don't have access to the same health care. Israel truly is a beacon of democracy.

You again are confused with the West Bank. These roads keep both sides from each other, in the West Bank. In Israel, they all use the same roads. And Israel offers several schools and you can basically pick what education system you need, like Canada. And you wonder why they have different roads? The pay to slay system is a government run program that pays Palestinians to murder jews. That exists today. So yah, separate roads in the West Bank are required.

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

Read up on this Nage. It is filled with multiple sources and studies that show the differences the Israeli government and its citizens treats it's arab population and even it's Ethiopian Jewish population. Racism is very alive in Israel and no matter what propaganda you post, it won't make it disappear or make it not true.

Racism is alive everywhere, but Israel pales in comparison to the rest of the middle east by such a huge margin, it is not even worth you mentioning them here. Israeli people have made peace with their neighbors, how about the Palestinians trying that?

The biggest apartheid in the world lays in many of Israel's neighbors for how they treat half their population, women (and other people as well besides women). But Israel, right? Did you know Lebanese law prevents Palestinians from owning land and specific jobs? Palestinians are lawyers, judges and politicians in Israel, even teachers in schools with Jewish students.

[Zary's-Mustache]

Again nothing but misinformation from you.

https://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/isr...AEL0901-01.htm

I'll trust a human rights watch group.

Nearly one in four of Israel's 1.6 million schoolchildren are educated in a public school system wholly separate from the majority. The children in this parallel school system are Israeli citizens of Palestinian Arab origin. Their schools are a world apart in quality from the public schools serving Israel's majority Jewish population. Often overcrowded and understaffed, poorly built, badly maintained, or simply unavailable, schools for Palestinian Arab children offer fewer facilities and educational opportunities than are offered other Israeli children. This report is about Israel's discrimination against its Palestinian Arab children in guaranteeing the right to education.

The Israeli government operates two separate school systems, one for Jewish children and one for Palestinian Arab children. Discrimination against Palestinian Arab children colors every aspect of the two systems. Education Ministry authorities have acknowledged that the ministry spends less per student in the Arab system than in the Jewish school system