2024/2025 Trade Rumours and Speculation thread

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Huberdeau will have more points as the Flames team becomes more talented IMO. Believe it or not they had the #1 PP in the NHL for the final stretch after Kuz was inserted. That's not to say 115 but somewhere in between.

Huberdeau will be older by the time we are more talented and likely have fallen off more.

And Kuzmenko will likely be traded by next deadline for futures.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Huberdeau will be older by the time we are more talented and likely have fallen off more.

And Kuzmenko will likely be traded by next deadline for futures.

Offensively talented...they were more offensively talented at the end of last season then they were are the start. I expect that trend to continue. If you think Huberdeau had hit his career high with the Flames that's fine, not me. Huberdeau hasn't fallen off because of age, he is a playmaker on a team with few drivers and few pure scorers.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Huberdeau will have more points as the Flames team becomes more talented IMO. Believe it or not they had the #1 PP in the NHL for the final stretch after Kuz was inserted. That's not to say 115 but somewhere in between.

So, somewhere between 52 and 115.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

So, somewhere between 52 and 115.

If Huberdeau can get back to a point a game that would be great. I don’t think the Flames have the supporting cast to get him back into the 110 scenario.

[activeStick]

Conroy has mentioned how high on his priority list it is to find someone that Huberdeau gels with specifically. I can't remember if he mentioned Kuzmenko's name here, but I think his proven chemistry with Huberdeau may very well be the reason the Flames end up extending Kuzmenko.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by Goriders

If Huberdeau can get back to a point a game that would be great. I don’t think the Flames have the supporting cast to get him back into the 110 scenario.

That was a historic team by scoring when he got 115 points, people really need to let go of that year. It was an anomaly.

He was a PPG+ winger in his prime years and those were high scoring teams in general. Florida finished 9th, 6th and 5th in scoring during those years (2019-2021) so I would assume if he is going to get back to being a PPG player, the team has a) be playing offensive style hockey b) be high scoring in general.

[SuperMatt18]

You just hope he can be a guy that gets around 70 points at this stage TBH.

He had the 4 season stretch where he was 1.21 PPG (99 points per 82) but that would be the peak of the age curve for a forward like him (25-29 years old).

Now you just hope he can be a good locker room presence through the retool/rebuild and contribute around 70 points on average with maybe a PPG season mixed in there.

[Bingo]

I've never understood the need for fan X to have to correct fan Y for being positive.

Huberdeau finished the season on an pretty good stretch. Someone is suggesting that IF that is a turning point he may be a more productive player next season. That in itself is a completely legit theory. Will it come true? Who knows ... I'm guessing not as the Flames won't have the same blueline moving pucks up to forwards to generate offence.

But lets make sure no one sees hope!

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I've never understood the need for fan X to have to correct fan Y for being positive.

Huberdeau finished the season on an pretty good stretch. Someone is suggesting that IF that is a turning point he may be a more productive player next season. That in itself is a completely legit theory. Will it come true? Who knows ... I'm guessing not as the Flames won't have the same blueline moving pucks up to forwards to generate offence.

But lets make sure no one sees hope!

The Flames will likely need the PP to be much more productive next season to offset the loss of Hanifin in their transition game and fortunately it did show a lot of improvement by the end of the season.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I've never understood the need for fan X to have to correct fan Y for being positive.

Huberdeau finished the season on an pretty good stretch. Someone is suggesting that IF that is a turning point he may be a more productive player next season. That in itself is a completely legit theory. Will it come true? Who knows ... I'm guessing not as the Flames won't have the same blueline moving pucks up to forwards to generate offence.

But lets make sure no one sees hope!

“Yes you are”

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

The Flames will likely need the PP to be much more productive next season to offset the loss of Hanifin in their transition game and fortunately it did show a lot of improvement by the end of the season.

Lots of things look good when the pressure is off.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I've never understood the need for fan X to have to correct fan Y for being positive.

Huberdeau finished the season on an pretty good stretch. Someone is suggesting that IF that is a turning point he may be a more productive player next season. That in itself is a completely legit theory. Will it come true? Who knows ... I'm guessing not as the Flames won't have the same blueline moving pucks up to forwards to generate offence.

But lets make sure no one sees hope!

Agreed. But some are suggesting that his 63 point pace since Jan 1 somehow equates to 70, 80 or even 117 points next season. That that is the likely place he will be at.

Now Huberdeau could hit 70-80 points next season, but the odds are likely against it. Players who get 80 points are generally on pretty high scoring teams, and that's not likely Calgary.

If he's a good teammate, plays a solid game and hits 70 points, I would consider that a huge win. And the first two are likely in the bag.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Agreed. But some are suggesting that his 63 point pace since Jan 1 somehow equates to 70, 80 or even 117 points next season. That that is the likely place he will be at.

Now Huberdeau could hit 70-80 points next season, but the odds are likely against it. Players who get 80 points are generally on pretty high scoring teams, and that's not likely Calgary.

If he's a good teammate, plays a solid game and hits 70 points, I would consider that a huge win. And the first two are likely in the bag.

No one has said that. Hence "straw man". All people have said is that "if" he can clean up his dry months, he can have improved production. Which is a pretty logical claim. The reference to his good months is merely to show he's still capable of that kind of production. Because he's done it.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Didn't want to restate your whole post, but it is a testament to what I have been saying for a long time which is: goalie stats are pretty much useless.

Team trades 2 top 4 defensemen, and goes from okay to terrible, giving up 5 alarm changes all over the place, and the goalie's stats tank. Huh.

Was Markstom as hot as he was earlier? No. But how could he be? It's a team game, and looking at stats can miss that sometimes.

I am not an expert on this stat, but Bingo has it in his game recaps.

Expected GA for goalies above average. Markstrom was near the leaders for lots of the season, but came down after the trade deadline. I assume that takes in to account the degree of required saves, or i's a pretty useless stat.

So, he was not just giving up more goals (duh!), but was giving up more goals than the average goalie would do on comparable chances. At least I think that's what it was saying.

Vladar and Wolf on a per game average were terrible on that stat, but at least Wolf's got better at the end (which the eye test would confirm).

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

No one has said that. Hence "straw man". All people have said is that "if" he can clean up his dry months, he can have improved production. Which is a pretty logical claim. The reference to his good months is merely to show he's still capable of that kind of production. Because he's done it.

Many have suggested that they think that's where he likely will land, that it is very achievable.

But if any player can clean up his dry months, it will result in approved production. Huberdeau's hot stretch since Jan 1 resulted in a 63 point pace. He's got a ways to go to get to 80 or more.

[Yeah_Baby]

I love how every thread for the last year and half has been turned into a Huby thread at some point.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

I love how every thread for the last year and half has been turned into a Huby thread at some point.

Huby only has himself to blame!

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Many have suggested that they think that's where he likely will land, that it is very achievable.

But if any player can clean up his dry months, it will result in approved production. Huberdeau's hot stretch since Jan 1 resulted in a 63 point pace. He's got a ways to go to get to 80 or more.

Not in this discussion they haven't.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Huby only has himself to blame!

I think lots of blame can be spread around. Has he sucked? Yes. He also didn't demand a trade to Calgary and ask for that contract.

Anyone of us would have taken that deal.

[traptor]

Huberdeau is not our savior, so what he does does or doesn't do doesn't really matter at this point.

He's a middle 6 perimeter winger on a bottom half team. Could he play on a top line and hit 80? Sure but it would most likely be due to a popping off linemate and secondary assists on the PP.

At best at this point he's a nice support piece.a winning team does not have him as a core piece.


His cap hit doesn't really matter either right now. But it will in 4 years.

I just hope they stop with this talk about trying to bring in pieces for him. We shouldn't build anything around him.