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		|  04-29-2024, 11:50 AM | #1 |  
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				 Vezina Finalists 
 
			
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Bobrovsky, Demko, and Hellebuyck.
 
I saw someone say Bob wasn't the best goalie on his team. Looked up the stats the backup Stolarz actually had better numbers.
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		|  04-29-2024, 11:51 AM | #2 |  
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			I hoped Markstrom might sneak in there, for trade value
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					Originally Posted by Funkhouser  I hoped Markstrom might sneak in there, for trade value |  
Is that a joke?
 
He was 23-23 with a 2.78 GAA and 905 save %
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		|  04-29-2024, 11:53 AM | #4 |  
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			Hellebuyck's trophy.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts  I saw someone say Bob wasn't the best goalie on his team. Looked up the stats the backup Stolarz actually had better numbers. |  
Significantly different quality of competition though. It looks like 17 of Stolarz' 24 starts were against teams that missed the playoffs.
		 
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Such a sillything to say unless its he played more minutes against better competition and had a better Goals saved vs expected per 60.  Brossoit has better counting numbers than Hellybuyck too.
 
Don't know what Bobrovski's GSAA is, but these days that's a key metric being used for this award.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Sylvanfan  Such a sillything to say unless its he played more minutes against better competition and had a better Goals saved vs expected per 60.  Brossoit has better counting numbers than Hellybuyck too.
 Don't know what Bobrovski's GSAA is, but these days that's a key metric being used for this award.
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He was 3rd in the league in that stat.
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		|  04-29-2024, 12:28 PM | #9 |  
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It's almost 3 hours old man, time for a new one.
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		|  04-29-2024, 12:33 PM | #11 |  
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			I actually scanned to see if one was posted and totally missed it in my excitement to post the vezina finalists.
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					Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts  I actually scanned to see if one was posted and totally missed it in my excitement to post the vezina finalists. |  
Getting sureloss'd is just a part of posting. You're fine, little guy.
		 
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		|  04-29-2024, 12:49 PM | #13 |  
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					Originally Posted by Funkhouser  I hoped Markstrom might sneak in there, for trade value |  
His stats was very bad after the TDL
 
Very rare team wants to spend for a goalie. Conroy needs lots of luck trading him for much value now
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		|  04-29-2024, 01:18 PM | #14 |  
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			LOL, no Markstrom? Look at his stats before the TDL. He even helped the team to slide to a better draft position. This kind of proves my point that goalie stats are really team stats. Vezina award should be retired. Jennings award should be repurposed as best team goals against average.
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		|  04-29-2024, 01:24 PM | #15 |  
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					Originally Posted by CSharp  LOL, no Markstrom? Look at his stats before the TDL. He even helped the team to slide to a better draft position. This kind of proves my point that goalie stats are really team stats. Vezina award should be retired. Jennings award should be repurposed as best team goals against average. |  
GSAA
 
1. Hellebyuck 
2. Demko 
6. Bobrovsky 
9. Markstrom
 
I think that tells you they got it right, and these 3 are the very best starting goalies all season.
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			The obvious finalists should have been:
 1. Markstrom
 2. Wolf
 3. Vladar
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		|  04-29-2024, 02:13 PM | #17 |  
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					Originally Posted by midniteowl  What?  No Skinner?      |  
Oh, I'm sure he got one 1st place vote.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Blaster86  Oh, I'm sure he got one 1st place vote. |  
Don't GM's vote on this award?
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					Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts  Don't GM's vote on this award? |  
Yeah. I don't think my point changes.
		 
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