Tank for Celebrini

[1qqaaz]

I'm surprised that Buffalo has a positive goal differential while potential playoff teams like Washington and NY Islanders are -38 and -25 respectively.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I'm surprised that Buffalo has a positive goal differential while potential playoff teams like Washington and NY Islanders are -38 and -25 respectively.

That's because WSH and NYI are in the Metropolitan, where 83 points not only gets you the last WC spot, it also gets you 3rd place in the division.

[troutman]

6.0%

https://www.tankathon.com/nhl/pick_odds

[activeStick]

My bet with my boss (for a steak dinner at a top steak house plus wine) is going to come down to the wire. I predicted that the points differential between San Jose (he's a Sharks fan) and Calgary this season would be larger than it was last season. Can't believe its going to likely come down to the remaining 2 head to heads.

[bigrangy]

Really good OOT tonight. 6th pre-lottery is attainable but probably needs to be 1-5 or so to hit that over the final 6 games.

What is nicer is that even if they go 3-3 it’s probably still good for 8th pre-lotto.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

Really good OOT tonight. 6th pre-lottery is attainable but probably needs to be 1-5 or so to hit that over the final 6 games.

What is nicer is that even if they go 3-3 it’s probably still good for 8th pre-lotto.

1-5 might be tough for this version of the Flames. By that I mean winning a game.

I think they can pull off 0-6. Don’t underestimate them.

[CSharp]

It's gonna be tough with the 3 tankers below Flames at the moment. All of them have a much tougher final 6 games than the teams that the Flames will play against. Worst might be 8th to 10th position. Best will likely be 6th. If assuming they don't win the lottery. They need to put some players in the day-to-day IR right now!

[Toonage]

^ You asked for it, you got it. Kylington now DTD

[Erick Estrada]

This is the time of year where meaningless wins can alter the fate of an organization. Nothing is guaranteed in the draft but winning a few meaningless games can be the difference between the opportunity to pick a tier 1/2 prospect and staring at the at best of the tier 3 prospects. Losing sucks but we should be embracing it to finish up the season.

[flamestar16]

Not sure if this has been mentioned and it pains me to say this but for improved draft position for our second 1st Rounder (Vancouver) it is better if the Coilers win the division.

If the Canucks were to lose in the first round it could be the difference of picking 25th to 28th or anywhere from 17th to 24th depending on upsets in the first round.

Basically division winners are ranked higher even if they lose in first round. For example, last year Colorado picked 27th as they won their division even though they lost to Seattle in first round.

Also, not too concerned about Van's 4th turning into a 3rd if they win two rounds. Minor difference.

Best Case Scenarios
Coilers win division
Vancouver is passed in points by Fla, Wpg, Col, (maybe Leafs)
A few upsets in Round 1.
Vegas wins Round 1 (3rd Round 2024 becomes 2nd Round 2025)
Dallas wins West (Gain 2026 3rd Round Pick)

[Vinny01]

It was only 2pts but the Flames beat Vegas in game 82 of the 2018 season (Jankowski 4 goals). Had the Flames lost that game they finish behind Carolina who won the 2nd overall pick for Svechnikov. Had the Flames been in that spot they would have gifted that pick to the Islanders who owned their unprotected pick from the Hamonic trade.


The Flames also finished sandwiched between the teams that won the lotto in 2016 to draft 2nd and 3rd and we know that every pick between Matthews at 1 and Tkachuk at 6 were all some form of bust. Laine and Dubois had moments of looking solid but Joulevi and Puljujarvi busted hard.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by flamestar16

Not sure if this has been mentioned and it pains me to say this but for improved draft position for our second 1st Rounder (Vancouver) it is better if the Coilers win the division.

If the Canucks were to lose in the first round it could be the difference of picking 25th to 28th or anywhere from 17th to 24th depending on upsets in the first round.

Basically division winners are ranked higher even if they lose in first round. For example, last year Colorado picked 27th as they won their division even though they lost to Seattle in first round.

Also, not too concerned about Van's 4th turning into a 3rd if they win two rounds. Minor difference.

Best Case Scenarios
Coilers win division
Vancouver is passed in points by Fla, Wpg, Col, (maybe Leafs)
A few upsets in Round 1.
Vegas wins Round 1 (3rd Round 2024 becomes 2nd Round 2025)
Dallas wins West (Gain 2026 3rd Round Pick)

As long as Vegas ends up WC1 to still play the Oilers.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

The Flames also finished sandwiched between the teams that won the lotto in 2016 to draft 2nd and 3rd and we know that every pick between Matthews at 1 and Tkachuk at 6 were all some form of bust. Laine and Dubois had moments of looking solid but Joulevi and Puljujarvi busted hard.

With the way the Flames talked about Chucky being the one they wanted, I wonder if they would have drafted him 2nd or 3rd anyway.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

With the way the Flames talked about Chucky being the one they wanted, I wonder if they would have drafted him 2nd or 3rd anyway.

They would have. They tried to trade up to 3 to take him.

[Niemo]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

They would have. They tried to trade up to 3 to take him.

Rumour on draft day was that they tried to move up to 4 to take Jesse Puljujarvi. If we remember , JP was bonafide top 3 and almost exactly what he needed at the time (big RW).

[Ba'alzamon]

Originally Posted by Niemo

Rumour on draft day was that they tried to move up to 4 to take Jesse Puljujarvi. If we remember , JP was bonafide top 3 and almost exactly what he needed at the time (big RW).

The rumor I remember hearing at the time was that the Flames were trying to trade up to 3rd (Columbus's pick) to get Tkachuk OR Puljujarvi. The rumor mongers weren't sure which, but they knew it was one of the two

[albertGQ]

Originally Posted by Niemo

Rumour on draft day was that they tried to move up to 4 to take Jesse Puljujarvi. If we remember , JP was bonafide top 3 and almost exactly what he needed at the time (big RW).

I heard this too

Thank goodness we dodged a huge bullet

[ForeverFlameFan]

I don’t think JP would’ve busted like he did in Edmonton, but i didn’t really think he’d be a top line winger. Happy with the result. Both western Canadian opponents passed on the better player at 4/5.

[robertsfanatic]

Regardless of where we end up, we're winning the lottery and drafting first. This is beginning of the Flames' path to winning a cup in the new barn.

[bigrangy]

There’s the 1 win.

Need 0-5 to have a chance of getting past Montreal/Ottawa/potentially Arizona.

Fortunately should be pretty hard to catch Seattle/Buffalo/NJ.

Feeling pretty locked into 8th as long as they don’t go 5-0 or 4-1 like dumbasses.