Official WWE/ECW/WCW/TNA talk, or whatever v2

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Do any of the top guys wrestle on free tv?

In the attitude days, they always had Rock/Austin/HHH/Undertaker/Kane/Mankind in the mains the events and stuff.

Cody, Seth, Rhea, and Becky frequently wrestle on TV. The only one who doesn't is Roman.

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Cody, Seth, Rhea, and Becky frequently wrestle on TV. The only one who doesn't is Roman.

Possibly Punk as well, but I guess time will tell with him. I wonder considering his injury history would it be smart to only him out of action on free TV? Would Punk himself be okay with that? He was wrestling on Collision every week.

[rubecube]

I get hating the Bucks, but I'm all in favour of Bucks/FTR IV if it happens.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I get hating the Bucks, but I'm all in favour of Bucks/FTR IV if it happens.

Hate I think is a compliment in the wrestling world.
I am bored by them.

[Blaster86]

They have go away heat.

[SuperMatt18]

I think the problem is people just want the Bucks to go back to being the Bucks in the tag team division.

Enough of trying to always piggyback off Omega and now Okada into the main event scene.

Stop trying to be internet smarks with this ridiculous EVP gimmick. (Get over the whole CM Punk thing already, it's been 18 months.)

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

They have go away heat.

Gotta give them credit for taking millions off a billionaire money mark, and holding their spot in AEW. They won the battle with Punk, and likely were given massive raises in their last contract. They're basically the Hall and Nash of AEW without the talent.

They're even keeping their best friends employed. I don't know where in California Cucamonga is, but surely at least one community built a statue for them.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Gotta give them credit for taking millions off a billionaire money mark, and holding their spot in AEW. They won the battle with Punk, and likely were given massive raises in their last contract. They're basically the Hall and Nash of AEW without the talent.

Hall, I'll give you. Nash might be the most overrated wrestler in the history of the business.

Anyways, back to TK's terrible booking. Why is 50 year-old Billy Gunn being booked to beat the #### out of Jay White? Saw it mentioned elsewhere that AEW is slowly turning into the waning Vince WWE years, where he just booked the #### he wanted to see.

[Muta]

I think AEW is intentionally leaning into the Bucks hate. It's likely a work, brother.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Muta

I think AEW is intentionally leaning into the Bucks hate. It's likely a work, brother.

Yeah, that's sort of how I see it. I'll be annoyed if they go over FTR at the PPV, but I don't mind them being gatekeepers without the belts.

[rubecube]

On another note, I think Jericho has more go away heat than the Bucks do at the moment. Crowd was outright booing him last night.

[trackercowe]

What's up with Rhonda Rousey? She's accused Drew Gulak of sexual harassment for "accidentally" putting at the drawstring on her pants while walking past her in the hallway. The whole situation seems like an innocent matter. She's really gone off the deep end recently, and has likely burned all bridges for a future with nearly every company.

I understand her vitriol reaction towards Vince, he deserves all the scorn he's getting. Yet by all accounts WWE treated Rousey very respectfully, and gave her opportunities when no one else would (including Hollywood). Was she this much of a malcontent after she left UFC?

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Was she this much of a malcontent after she left UFC?

Yeah, this is kind of her schtick.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by rubecube

On another note, I think Jericho has more go away heat than the Bucks do at the moment. Crowd was outright booing him last night.

Every EVP that isn't Omega seems to have go away heat (I forget if Hangman has the title or not).

Jericho has most certainly overstayed his welcome with the fans. I think him coming out as an Insurrectionist really took a toll on his popularity. While the Bucks have the same political leanings, they've always smartly kept it to themselves.


Edit - As for Rousey, she's driving her book. She's gonna say and do what she can to stay in the lime light.

[Ozy_Flame]

As Killian Dain said, some wrestlers are just stupid I don't know what else to tell you

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Every EVP that isn't Omega seems to have go away heat (I forget if Hangman has the title or not).

Neither Jericho or Hangman are EVPs, but your'e not wrong. The fans had turned on Cody by the time he left, too.

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Jericho has most certainly overstayed his welcome with the fans. I think him coming out as an Insurrectionist really took a toll on his popularity.

I'm not even sure it's that. I think people are just sick of him. He had a good run of being able to reinvent himself for a few years but now it all just feels very tired.

[trackercowe]

I'm not convinced Jericho would work as a manager either (ala Bobby Heenan). Maybe as an authority figure? Otherwise he needs to stick to commentary, since he's always wanting to steal the limelight from the younger generation.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

I'm not convinced Jericho would work as a manager either (ala Bobby Heenan). Maybe as an authority figure? Otherwise he needs to stick to commentary, since he's always wanting to steal the limelight from the younger generation.

I think being a manager is a tough gig in modern wrestling. Honestly, outside of Heyman, the only really good manager these days is Callis. Dude gets nuclear heat when he's out there.

For Jericho I think it's either commentary or nothing at this point. I don't think he has the chops to be a manager.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Neither Jericho or Hangman are EVPs, but your'e not wrong. The fans had turned on Cody by the time he left, too.

That's right, he's a "Special advisor." Hangman would have been in the Omega category, as I am not into him but live fans seem to be digging what he's pushing again.

Originally Posted by rubecube

I'm not even sure it's that. I think people are just sick of him. He had a good run of being able to reinvent himself for a few years but now it all just feels very tired.

I think it's playing a role in it. But maybe that's just me projecting my feelings onto other fans. I know it's played a role for me.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

That's right, he's a "Special advisor." Hangman would have been in the Omega category, as I am not into him but live fans seem to be digging what he's pushing again.

Omega is in a tough spot because he's too talented in the ring to ever get booed, but his promos are super corny when he's a babyface.