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			If the Flames don't get 1st overall I'm happy anywhere 2-8 tbh. Same quality players from everything i've seen. If anyone has more insight than myself, correct me as I would love to hear otherwise.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-29-2024, 05:31 AM
			
			
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			03-29-2024, 08:56 AM
			
			
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				I just cant see past the Penguins winning the lottery. The fix is in. 
			
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That would require them to be a bottom 10 pick and actually win with very few odds to. I doubt the “fix” is in this year but in 2026? Could absolutely see them stealing McKenna because why not, only the Oilers and Pens can grab generational talents.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-29-2024, 02:24 PM
			
			
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				That would require them to be a bottom 10 pick and actually win with very few odds to. I doubt the “fix” is in this year but in 2026? Could absolutely see them stealing McKenna because why not, only the Oilers and Pens can grab generational talents. 
			
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I actually see Penguins don't have their 1st round pick anyway. My bad.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-29-2024, 02:28 PM
			
			
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				They are 100% correct. 
 
But before people jump all over Huska, I doubt he has the mandate to do that 
			
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Based on what they have done over the last month or so how could you not make the rest of the season an extended training camp.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-02-2024, 12:19 AM
			
			
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			Another nice OOT night for the tank. Pittsburgh stays ahead, Islanders and St Louis keep their cushion, Kraken win keeps them 2 points up.  
 
The big "hurdle" now is that the schedule saved all the Pacific deadbeats for April. Anaheim & SJ x2. Plus Arizona. It would take an extraordinary tanking effort to not run a little ahead of the pack and get back into 11th or so I think.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-02-2024, 01:01 AM
			
			
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				The big "hurdle" now is that the schedule saved all the Pacific deadbeats for April. Anaheim & SJ x2. Plus Arizona. It would take an extraordinary tanking effort to not run a little ahead of the pack and get back into 11th or so I think. 
			
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Even before trading away half their defence corps, the Flames showed they were quite capable of losing to San Jose. And they weren't even trying to tank.
 
I still believe the most likely outcome is that they finish 25th overall, which would have them drafting 8th before the lottery.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-02-2024, 05:15 AM
			
			
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			Flames suck against the basement dwellers. Record is pretty bad.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-02-2024, 10:47 AM
			
			
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			According to Tankathon.com, the Flames have the 2nd easiest remaining strength of schedule.  
From hardest remaining SOS to easiest, here's us and the teams we're hoping to draft ahead of: 
 
5- OTT 
7- BUF 
9- MTL 
10 - NJD 
11 - ARI 
29 - SEA 
31 - CGY
 
Seems likely we finish above Buffalo and New Jersey, which would put us 10th in the draft?
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			04-02-2024, 11:17 AM
			
			
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			Flames should lose the most then! Flames cannot handle an easy schedule
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-02-2024, 11:30 AM
			
			
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				Flames should lose the most then! Flames cannot handle an easy schedule 
			
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Of course, this isn't entirely true:  1-0 versus the Ducks, 2-0 against the Yotes and Habs, 1-1 v Sabres, NJD and Ottawa.
 
They have bad records versus SJ, Chicago and Columbus.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-02-2024, 12:15 PM
			
			
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Flames perform about the same vs. good teams as they do vs. bad teams. 
 
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			04-02-2024, 12:35 PM
			
			
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			If you look on other teams' boards, their teams always: 
 
a.  perform worse against bad teams/play down to their opposition 
b.  face hot goalies or backups who play their best game 
c.  allow first goals for rookies, or slump busting goals 
d.  are inconsistent/don't play a full 60 minutes/aren't "ready to play"
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-02-2024, 12:55 PM
			
			
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				If you look on other teams' boards, their teams always: 
 
a.  perform worse against bad teams/play down to their opposition 
b.  face hot goalies or backups who play their best game 
c.  allow first goals for rookies, or slump busting goals 
d.  are inconsistent/don't play a full 60 minutes/aren't "ready to play" 
			
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you forgot
 
e. constantly get pushed around by other teams and need an enforcer to "keep them honest"
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-02-2024, 01:23 PM
			
			
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			I mean... 
 
"Contenders" (record | goal diff) 
vs VGK: 3-0-1 | +5 
vs TBL: 2-0 | +5 
vs WPG: 2-0 | +5 
vs BOS: 2-0 | +4 
vs DAL: 2-1 | +3 
vs NSH: 2-1 | +3 
vs TOR: 1-0-1 | -1 
vs FLA: 1-1 | -2 
vs VAN: 1-2 | 0 
vs COL: 0-3 | -7 
 
"Tankers" 
vs ANA: 1-0 | +3 
vs NYI: 1-1 | +3 
vs CHI: 1-2 | -2 
vs SJS: 0-1 | -3 
vs CBJ: 0-2 | -5 
 
 
It's not really about "record vs under .500 teams" for the Flames. It's about "record vs the best teams compared to record vs the worst teams." That's the Flames' thing.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-02-2024, 03:28 PM
			
			
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				I mean... 
 
"Contenders" (record | goal diff) 
vs VGK: 3-0-1 | +5 
vs TBL: 2-0 | +5 
vs WPG: 2-0 | +5 
vs BOS: 2-0 | +4 
vs DAL: 2-1 | +3 
vs NSH: 2-1 | +3 
vs TOR: 1-0-1 | -1 
vs FLA: 1-1 | -2 
vs VAN: 1-2 | 0 
vs COL: 0-3 | -7 
 
"Tankers" 
vs ANA: 1-0 | +3 
vs NYI: 1-1 | +3 
vs CHI: 1-2 | -2 
vs SJS: 0-1 | -3 
vs CBJ: 0-2 | -5 
 
 
It's not really about "record vs under .500 teams" for the Flames. It's about "record vs the best teams compared to record vs the worst teams." That's the Flames' thing. 
			
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You are cherry picking a bit here.  Where's Buffalo, Montreal, NJD, Ottawa, AZ?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-02-2024, 05:02 PM
			
			
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			That "pretenders" quadrant looks good on the Coil, that's all I can say.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-02-2024, 05:09 PM
			
			
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				If you look on other teams' boards, their teams always: 
 
a.  perform worse against bad teams/play down to their opposition 
b.  face hot goalies or backups who play their best game 
c.  allow first goals for rookies, or slump busting goals 
d.  are inconsistent/don't play a full 60 minutes/aren't "ready to play" 
			
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Just don't work as hard as they need too.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-02-2024, 05:25 PM
			
			
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				Flames perform about the same vs. good teams as they do vs. bad teams.  
source: u/FourFeetOfCurl on reddit.
   
			
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LOL Oilers
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-02-2024, 06:43 PM
			
			
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				I mean... 
 
"Contenders" (record | goal diff) 
vs VGK: 3-0-1 | +5 
vs TBL: 2-0 | +5 
vs WPG: 2-0 | +5 
vs BOS: 2-0 | +4 
vs DAL: 2-1 | +3 
vs NSH: 2-1 | +3 
vs TOR: 1-0-1 | -1 
vs FLA: 1-1 | -2 
vs VAN: 1-2 | 0 
vs COL: 0-3 | -7 
 
"Tankers" 
vs ANA: 1-0 | +3 
vs NYI: 1-1 | +3 
vs CHI: 1-2 | -2 
vs SJS: 0-1 | -3 
vs CBJ: 0-2 | -5 
 
 
It's not really about "record vs under .500 teams" for the Flames. It's about "record vs the best teams compared to record vs the worst teams." That's the Flames' thing. 
			
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Total charry picking - why include NYI, but not include ARI, MTL, OTT, SEA and BUF (combined record of 8-4)
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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