Why would any other team have been stripped of their 1st-round pick? Cite precedent, please.
The Coyotes were stripped of their 1st for combine cheating , or something like that. That of course directly related to the draft.
For what the Blackhawks did, I don't know if there has ever been a precedence to administer a draft pick penalty. Maybe there has been. But that situation had less implications to the draft, so maybe it wouldn't be an appropriate penalty in that case. I think it's just the idea many people think the Hawks got off way too easy and now have another generational player.
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Why would any other team have been stripped of their 1st-round pick? Cite precedent, please.
The Devils were stripped of their 2014 1st round pick and given the 30th overall pick instead. They missed out on possibly drafting Pastrnak as a result but did manage to snag John Quennville.
I would be fine with the NHL stripping the Hawks of say a 2024 1st and giving them the 32nd overall pick as a punishment like they gave the Devils. The Devils were punished for giving a contract out that other teams had given out before, which may be a worse transgression in the NHL’s eyes.
The Devils were punished for giving a contract out that other teams had given out before, which may be a worse transgression in the NHL’s eyes.
The Devils pushed it much further than any team had before. Long, back-diving contracts were getting out of control, and the NHL wanted to send a message. The CBA specifically allowed the league to take draft picks away from teams that have been found guilty of circumventing the cap.
As far as I know, the CBA says nothing empowering the league to punish actual criminal conduct by a team or its employees. I expect the NHL rightly considered that was a matter for the courts, not for the league.
Sometimes it's not a question of which offence is worse, but simply of who has jurisdiction.
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Ottawa also has to lose a first for “forgetting” about Dadonov’s no trade list.
Now now, that is much worse than what Chicago did. If people don't think there are different parameters for certain teams in the NHL they have not been paying attention.
Now now, that is much worse than what Chicago did. If people don't think there are different parameters for certain teams in the NHL they have not been paying attention.
What exactly did Chicago do that falls under the jurisdiction of the NHL? I don't recall anything in the rulebook about handing out vigilante justice to rapists.
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What exactly did Chicago do that falls under the jurisdiction of the NHL? I don't recall anything in the rulebook about handing out vigilante justice to rapists.
Air Bud Rules:
There is nothing in the NHL handbook that vigilante justice can't be handed out.
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The selling point for me on Lindstrom wasn't necessarily the big 5 (skating, shooting, IQ, defense, playmaking) but it was the the rankings on things like scoring 5v5 and zone entries. Ranked 1st in both.
That's playdriving center stuff.
What the 17/18 year old kid needs to learn is how to slow the game down from the half boards to the goal line. He's an energetic badger out there but rarely takes time to see the ice and the unfolding play.
He'd be a perfect pairing for a smooth pair of mitts in Honzek. And they'd make up one meaty line.
Lindstrom is still tops for me. Even with the aspects of his game that need work. To me it's perfect that there are things that need work but the key things that make the foundation of a great player are there and very ready right now (skating , compete, shot).
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2. Vancouver from 29 to 30th
Flames Pick:
7 Cayden Lindstrom C 7.45
8 Cole Eiserman LW 8.36
9 Zayne Parekh D 8.73
10 Zeev Buium D 9.18
11 Konsta Helenius C 10.36
Canuck's Pick:
28 Charlie Elick D 28.43
29 Nikita Artamonov LW 29.38
30 Henry Mews D 30.00
31 E.J. Emery D 31.11
32 Marek Vanacker 31.57
Top Ten:
1 Macklin Celebrini C 1.00
2 Ivan Demidov RW 2.91
3 Artyom Levshunov D 4.45
4 Sam Dickinson D 5.73
5 Anton Silayev D 6.09
6 Berkly Catton C 7.18
7 Cayden Lindstrom C 7.45
8 Cole Eiserman LW 8.36
9 Zayne Parekh D 8.73
10 Zeev Buium D 9.18
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Seems like Ottawa wins the 1st the most when I run that sim, so I think we need to hope for the 7th slot.
Next is Chicago. Celebrini - Bedard seems dangerous.
I had a similar experience as I simulated like 50 times straight and I don't know what it is about the 7th pick but Ottawa noticeably moved up in a lot of the mocks.
The sell point for me on Lindstrom wasn't necessarily the big 5 (skating, shooting, IQ, defense, playmaking) but it was the the rankings on things like scoring 5v5 and zone entries. Ranked 1st in both.
That's playdriving center stuff.
What the 17/18 year old kid needs to learn is how to slow the game down from the half boards to the goal line. He's an energetic badger out there but rarely takes time to see the ice and the unfolding play.
He'd be a perfect pairing for a smooth pair of mitts in Hinzek. And they'd make up one meaty line.
Lindstrom is still tops for me. Even with the the aspects of his game that need work. To me it's perfect things need work but the things that make the foundation of a great player are there and very ready right now (skating , compete, shot).
I think this is why you'll see Lindstrom/Catton go higher than most are predicting. Lindstrom could easily go top 3 if a team thinks he's got all the tools and it'll translate well to the NHL. Honestly he reminds me a bit of Byfield but more skilled, might take a few years to refine his skills in the AHL but could be a steal if he's there outside of the top 5.
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They have the Flames taking Silayev, they're also the first publication I've seen refering to Silayev as having the highest ceiling outside of Celebrini.
"Calgary needs to add some defensive prospects to the cupboard, and while I'm not convinced Silayev will be available at this spot, Calgary should be thrilled if he gets to them. The hulking 6-7 defender is playing meaningful minutes on one of the KHL's better teams, which is extremely rare at age 17. He's not expected to be an offensive defenseman in the NHL, but showing developable offensive attributes at his size raises eyebrows: Outside of Celebrini, he projects to have the highest ceiling in the draft.
He skates very well and shows quality agility in the way he defends in transition and moves around the offensive zone. Silayev seems to be scratching the surface of his potential with his talents and physical gifts. His ceiling at the NHL level is as an impactful top-pairing defenseman, if he can add strength without losing mobility."
Scary. To me it just paraphrases to "Silayev does not currently have the same offensive abilities as the other dmen available, but at 6'7", can you imagine if he did?"
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Not my favourite prospect, but if Silayev is available where the Flames pick, he will almost certainly be BPA and would be a fine pick.
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Scary. To me it just paraphrases to "Silayev does not currently have the same offensive abilities as the other dmen available, but at 6'7", can you imagine if he did?"
then they have us taking the 6'7" forward for good measure with our 2nd pick
