2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dammage79

What's the absolute best the Vancouver pick can end up being?

Can't remember if reg season stats apply to rankings after round 1.

if they win the division, 25th (requires them to be the worst of the division winners, and have all 4 division winners not make the final 4)

If they don't win the division, could realistically get to maybe 22nd at best

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

32 - cup winner
31 - finalist
29 & 30 - conference losers
28 down - reverse standings from reg season

Not exactly

29-32 are correct
then come the division winners that didn't make the conference finals
then reverse standings

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

The team also doesn't have a top pairing d prospect.
This draft is a unique opportunity to get that, with the next draft trending to be much more F heavy at the top.
There are 4-6 dmen in this draft that would have gone higher v. the top d drafted last year.

I don't mind the idea of taking a dman now too. I assume we will be picking high in the draft for the next 2 years after this draft.

Dmen take longer to develop, and it could be a perfect scenario to have a very good young dman ready to play big minutes when you draft a high end forward at the top of the 25 or 26 draft.

Looking at a team like NJ who got the high-end forwards first and now are waiting for the high end dmen to develop, they are under achieving so far because D just take longer to dominate on average.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Ledges from 10 Rankings:

Looks pretty certain that the Flames will pick in group three.

1 Macklin Celebrini C 1.00

2 Ivan Demidov RW 3.00
3 Artyom Levshunov D 4.40
4 Sam Dickinson D 5.70
5 Anton Silayev D 6.40

6 Berkly Catton C 7.20
7 Cayden Lindstrom C 7.40
8 Zayne Parekh D 8.50
9 Cole Eiserman LW 8.80
10 Zeev Buium D 9.10

11 Konsta Helenius C 10.50
12 Carter Yakemchuk D 11.50

13 Tij Iginla C 13.50
14 Liam Greentree RW 13.80

15 Michael Brandsegg-Nygard RW 17.20
16 Adam Jiricek D 17.70
17 Trevor Connelly LW 18.80
18 Igor Chernyshov LW 20.10

19 Michael Hage C 22.10
20 Sacha Boisvert C 22.20
21 Emil Hemming F 22.83
22 Beckett Sennecke RW 23.33

23 Andrew Basha LW 25.22
24 Ryder Ritchie RW 25.30
25 Aron Kiviharju D 26.11
26 Julius Miettinen 26.25
27 Terik Parascak RW 26.71
28 Marek Vanacker 27.00
29 Jett Luchanko C 27.43
30 Charlie Elick D 28.67
31 Henry Mews D 29.71

Hope you're right, but I thinking picking 11 or 12 is more likely than 8 or 9.

[Enoch Root]

The race, currently:

6) MTL: -5
7) OTT: -3
8) SEA: 0 (fewest RWs)
T9) CAL: 0
T9) BUF: 0
11) PIT: +2
12) NJD: +2
13) NYI: +5

Even though we are currently T9th, we are closer to 12th than 7th. In baseball terms, were are only one game up on 12th place.

I still believe we draft between 10 and 12

[Roof-Daddy]

When I look at the teams all toiling around in the bottom 5 to 10 in the league, not one team or fan base deserves a lottery win more than the Calgary Flames IMO

Never had a top 3 pick, only team in that group that hasn't.

Too bad "deserve" has nothing to do with it I guess.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

When I look at the teams all toiling around in the bottom 5 to 10 in the league, not one team or fan base deserves a lottery win more than the Calgary Flames IMO

Never had a top 3 pick, only team in that group that hasn't.

Too bad "deserve" has nothing to do with it I guess.

If the Flames win the lottery they will get a Yakupov. I am certain of it lol

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Bonded

If the Flames win the lottery they will get a Yakupov. I am certain of it lol

This kind of rubbish is precisely why this fan base doesn't ‘deserve’ a top pick. You can't even wait for it to happen before being negative about it.

I am slowly coming to the conclusion that Flames fans, as a general thing, deserve all the suffering they can get, because it's the only thing they are capable of enjoying.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

This kind of rubbish is precisely why this fan base doesn't ‘deserve’ a top pick. You can't even wait for it to happen before being negative about it.

I am slowly coming to the conclusion that Flames fans, as a general thing, deserve all the suffering they can get, because it's the only thing they are capable of enjoying.

Not all of us bud. No way Celebrini busts.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Not all of us bud. No way Celebrini busts.

Tell that to Bonded, who has already proclaimed him to be a bust IF the Flames draft him.

[cral12]

admittedly bit of a test here to see if these direct links to Sandman's profiles over at Upside Hockey work +/- useful that I'll be using on socials

Some of Upside's hopeful draft targets for Flames (some admittedly longshots)

Berkly Catton - Upside Hockey NHL Draft Prospect Profiles
https://bit.ly/berklycatton

Ivan Demidov
https://bit.ly/ivandemidov

Zeev Buium
https://bit.ly/zeevbuium

Zay Parekh
https://bit.ly/zayparekh

Seems to be a CP fav:
Cayden Lindstrom
https://bit.ly/caydenlindstrom

[genetic_phreek]

The more highlights I watch, the more I want us to get Cayden Lindstrom. He's big, his skating is amazing, and he utilizes his linemates pretty good. I feel like he'll likely be gone when we're up to select but wishful thinking on my part.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

This team has virtually no forward talent anywhere in the entire organization.

Unless someone truly special falls into our laps, I don’t want a defenseman with our 1st.

I feel for Zary, Coronato, Honzek, Pelletier, Pospisil, Suniev, etc. Busting their ass and still part of the virtual no talent up front group.

If the Flames have some of the stud dmen available and take a forward who they do not think is BPA that would be tragic. I myself would prefer a dman this draft because they are almost certainly drafting top 10 next draft and that draft looks much weaker on the backend, which would leave drafting a top pairing dman to the 2026 draft.

With the number of picks the Flames have I would feel much more confident about them finding some forward diamond in the rough than a dman. I would also feel more confident that they find a good forward with their likely top 10 pick next year or their likely top 10 pick in 2026.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

It took five tries to get the Flames picking 1st overall. Not bad I guess.

Took me 5 tries too.

[topfiverecords]

Seems like Ottawa wins the 1st the most when I run that sim, so I think we need to hope for the 7th slot.

Next is Chicago. Celebrini - Bedard seems dangerous.

[dammage79]

Winning the lottery takes all the guessing out of it that's for sure.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Bonded

If the Flames win the lottery they will get a Yakupov. I am certain of it lol

I was thinking at worst, it's an RNH.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Next is Chicago. Celebrini - Bedard seems dangerous.

Bettman wants to see that for sure.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Bettman wants to see that for sure.

What makes you think he cares, or can do anything about it? He answers to 32 owners, not one.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

What makes you think he cares, or can do anything about it? He answers to 32 owners, not one.

Because he let them draft Bedard after a scandal that would have stripped any other team of their 1st round pick? I don't trust anything Bettman is in charge of when it comes to his darling franchises.