Who's on your 2024/2025 retool team?

[FBI]

2024/2025 season:
Here's my pics:
Top 7 D:
Weegar, Andersson, Kylington, (top 4 UFA D), Miromanov, Pachal, rotating spot

Goalies:
Markstrom
Wolf
(or Vladar, Wolf, Veteran pickup if Markstrom gets us something good)

Top 12 F:
Huberdeau, Sharangovich, Coronato
Pospisil, Kadri, Zary
Pelletier, Backlund, Coleman
Greer, Rooney, Kuzmenko

And 25/26 just for spits and giggles:
- Would like to see Bruce up on the Top 6 D
- Wolf and either Vladar or Veteran as the 2nd guy
- Kuzmenko gone, who else's contract is up?
- Honzek likely not ready yet
- Maybe this year's first rounder gets into the lineup

[topfiverecords]

Huberdeau- Sharangovich - Holtz
Zary - Kadri - Pospisil
Pelletier - Celebrini - Coronato
Greer - Rooney - Coleman
Hunt

Weegar - Miromanov
Kylington - Pachal
Okhotiuk - Poirier
Hanley

Vladar
Wolf

[SuperMatt18]

My guess is the roster looks pretty close to what we are seeing right now. Might see a different veteran d-man added instead of Hanley. Maybe Markstrom gets moved. Mangiapane probably get more value if you wait until the deadline, same with Kuzmenko.

But let's give it a shot of what I'd prefer to see:

Goalie:
Wolf
Vladar/Talbot/Quick/ other veteran

Move Markstrom, either Vladar or a veteran goalie split time with Wolf.

Defense:

Weegar, Kylington, (top 4 UFA D), Miromanov, Pachal, Okhotiuk, Hanley

Move Andersson, replace him with a veteran dman from UFA or a cap dump veteran via a trade where you get compensation for taking him.

Center:
Sharangovich, Kadri, Backlund, Rooney

Winger:
Huberdeau, Coleman, Kuzmenko, Zary, Pospisil, Coronato, Pelletier, Greer

Move Mangiapane. If somebody like Duclair or Debrusk can be had for good value then think about that. Might be tough to move Mangiapane before the deadline.

[dustygoon]

Retool team has to land us a top 10 pick. It would be a brutal if we land at 11-15 and forfeit it to Montreal.

Thus, no Markstrom for me.

[The Cobra]

If Calgary gets Celebrini, surely they won’t have him playing on the 3rd line lol.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

If Calgary gets Celebrini, surely they won’t have him playing on the 3rd line lol.

We can't afford to win that many games.

[Flames1217]

Zary-Kadri-Mercer
Huberdeau-Sharangovich-Coronato
Pelletier-Backlund-Coleman
Greer-Rooney-Pospisil
Hunt/Deuhr

Kylington-Anderson
Schmidt-Weegar
Hanley-Miromanov/Pachal
Okhotiuk

Wolf
Vladar

Markstrom and Mangiapane out.

Mercer and Nate Schmidt (cap dump) in.

[Vinsta13]

I see a lot of people putting Miromanov as a 5/6 dman. I feel with the way he is being used by Huska (21.35 avg ice time) he is going to be our number 3/4 defenceman until proven otherwise.

Which I feel he has showcased he can be since the trade and he continues trending upwards each game. You can see the difference in confidence Huska is showing in him versus a Pachal or Okhotiuk which I don’t think is because of what we gave up for him.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

If Calgary gets Celebrini, surely they won’t have him playing on the 3rd line lol.

I would think that's exactly where they would play him in year 1

[Paulie Walnuts]

McDavid started on the 3rd line.

[Poe969]

I think they'll sign one decent UFA forward and still find a way to play 4 equally balanced 4th lines.

[dammage79]

Markstrom will be moved but it's not going to be the return ppl think they'll get back. It's not gonna be sexy.

I hope to clear the forward baffles by at least 3 players.

I suspect the retool is going to go through some chemistry experiments while they're at it because for the most part, there's a lot of square pegs and some round holes.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Markstrom will be moved but it's not going to be the return ppl think they'll get back. It's not gonna be sexy.

I hope to clear the forward baffles by at least 3 players.

I suspect the retool is going to go through some chemistry experiments while they're at it because for the most part, there's a lot of square pegs and some round holes.

The Flames do not have a retool lineup. Suspect Conroy knows this. He has a plan, get a bunch of picks and young players. He has always said this is his plan and he has executed that plan. Pick up almost no players above the age of 25. Emphasize the need to be competitive and use lots of words but his plan is to do everything you normally would do in a rebuild but it will be called a retool. I highly doubt that Conroy will deviate from the plan he said he had last summer and has executed this entire season.

[Sylvanfan]

If Calgary gets Celebrini you intentionally don't sign him so that when you get another top 3 pick next year you bring them in together and maximize those rookie deals. But make sure the team is bad enough around them to do it again so you have 3 of them together for at least 2 years. Than start selling them to maximize the asset value. Their value will never be higher!

[calculoso]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

If Calgary gets Celebrini you intentionally don't sign him so that when you get another top 3 pick next year you bring them in together and maximize those rookie deals. But make sure the team is bad enough around them to do it again so you have 3 of them together for at least 2 years. Than start selling them to maximize the asset value. Their value will never be higher!

Isn’t the rookie deal based on age and not automatically 3 years? As in draft and sign = 3-year contract, wait a year and sign = 2-year contract?

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

If Calgary gets Celebrini you intentionally don't sign him so that when you get another top 3 pick next year you bring them in together and maximize those rookie deals. But make sure the team is bad enough around them to do it again so you have 3 of them together for at least 2 years. Than start selling them to maximize the asset value. Their value will never be higher!

That obviously won’t happen. The kid will play in the NHL next year

[boogerz]

Huberdeau - Zary - Sharangovich
Pospisil - Kadri - Coronato
Pelletier - Backlund - Coleman
Greer - Rooney - Duehr
Hunt

Weegar - Andersson
Dumba - Miromanov
Kylington - Pachal
Solovyov/Okhotiuk

Markstrom
Wolf


In: Solovyov, veteran defensive dman (e.g. Dumba or Tanev)
Out: Vladar, Mangiapane, Kuzmenko, Hanley, Gilbert

[savardandjokinen]

Huberdeau Sharangovich Kuzmenko
Mangiapane Backlund Coleman
Zary Kadri Coronato
Pelletier Rooney Pospisil
Hunt

Weegar Andersson
Tanev Kylington
Okhotiuk Miromanov
Hanley Pachal

Markstrom
Wolf

Re sign tanev in the off season, trade guys like Kuzmenko and Mangiapane next deadline. Either Markstrom or Vladar is gone in the off season, I personally put Vladar but if the offer is too good to pass up you have to trade Markstrom

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Black: Current signed players
Blue: Current RFAs re-signed
Red: Signed UFAs
Green: Traded at some point during the season
*Traded at draft/off-season: Markstrom

Zary-Kadri-Sharangovich
Huberdeau-Wennberg-Kuzmenko
Pospisil-Backlund-Coleman
Mangiapane-Rooney-Coronato/Pelletier

Extra: Klapka/Duehr

Weegar-Andersson
Kylington-Tanev
Miromanov-Pachal

Extra: any of Okhotiuk, Solovyov, Kuznetsov, Poirier etc.

Vladar
Wolf

Reasoning: The team desperately needs a middle 6 center. Kadri is passable as the top line center on a rebuilding team. Sharangovich is a stop gap at center. He doesn't have the faceoff prowess or defensive acumen to handle top 6 center duties. He's a much more effective winger.

The Flames have cap space to add someone like Alexander Wennberg on a 3-4 year deal at about $5-6 million per year. Sound defensively and can cover for the warts of guys like Huberdeau and Kuzmenko in their own end, adds some adequate offense, has decent size. I watched him over the years on different teams (including the Panthers), and he's really solid and dependable, just not that flashy. He'd be a nice stabilizing presence in the middle of the ice. The Flames do NOT have any prospects capable of playing middle 6 center ice at the NHL level. This will have to be a void filled by UFA. You can't go into the season with only 3 legitimate NHL centers. You still have to be somewhat competitive.

I think both Kuzmenko and Mangiapane are traded at some point in the season. Neither are in the team's long term plans, or are a guy you really are dying to keep for a future build based on skills and age. That will open up spots for Coronato, Pelletier, and whoever else that looks like they're ready to make the jump.

The defense is a work in progress. There are a lot of similar age and skillset prospects in the organization now, and I would imagine that 1 or 2 will show they could be ready for NHL duty in the Fall, but I'm not so sure of it at the present moment. Pachal is the only one that looks passable defensively, and even he has warts. They seem committed to giving Miromanov every opportunity to stick full time, but I could easily see Poirier taking his job as an offensive d-man/PP quarterback while playing 3rd pair 5 on 5. My guess is they sign a veteran defenseman to play on the 2nd pair with Kylington, who they will sign to a 1-2 year deal, only because his future is still pretty uncertain. I put in Chris Tanev because there are rumors he'd be open to coming back to Calgary. Again, maybe only a 1-2 year deal because of age, but with the promise of trading him to a contender again at the deadline.

I think there's still far too much smoke around Markstrom being traded to a contending team needing goaltending. I also think he'd happily move to a better team for a chance to win as he's getting older. Look for him to be traded at the draft or at some point in the off-season. I don't expect him to start with us next year at all. He seems to be a guy that wants to control the timing of a move, and I don't think he wants to move in the middle of the season when he's too busy to set up his private life in a new location.

Wolf and Vladar will be a 1A/1B scenario, probably splitting the games down the middle or based on whoever is performing better. It will likely be a downgrade without Markstrom, but maybe they surprise. All I know is that Wolf needs to play NHL games at this point in his development. He won't learn anything staying in the AHL.

[kyuss275]

Think the only way tanev is coming back is if he wins the cup with Dallas. Even then I still have my doubts. Have to think Vancouver will go after him in summer , along with a bunch of teams .