2024 Off-season trade rumours and speculation thread

[cannon7]

Probably time CP stop obsessing over Mercer? Better to draft a #1 C.

[Tbull8]

Alright Devils just give us your 1st so we can get Catton and Tij or Tij and Yak

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

Alright Devils just give us your 1st so we can get Catton and Tij or Tij and Yak

Apparently you'd be stupid for taking those two because there's half a dozen number 1 d-men at the top of the draft.

[PepsiFree]

Mangiapane, Kuzmenko, and Sharangovich are all UFA next year. It wouldn’t surprise me if none of them are back in 25/26.

Our top 9 is already pretty “full” looking ahead:

Vets
Huberdeau
Kadri
Backlund
Coleman

Young Players
Pelletier
Zary
Coronato
Pospisil

So, there’s basically one spot up for grabs in 2025/26. We’ll have Honzek and potentially the 1st rounder in 2024 knocking.

Maybe guys like Pelletier and Coronato never take the next step. Maybe Pospisil regresses and finds himself anchoring the 4th line (not a terrible outcome). And of course a year later and guys like Backlund and Coleman become question marks.

But it’s going to be difficult to justify keeping even 2/3 of those guys past 24/25. I think maybe you move Mangiapane in the offseason and see where everything is at by the TDL before you make a decision on Sharangovich/Kuzmenko.

[Robbob]

This thread might not make it past the draft in June before it needs to net a second part

[Monahammer]

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Shark will re-sign.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Apparently you'd be stupid for taking those two because there's half a dozen number 1 d-men at the top of the draft.

Top pairing defencemen or top line winger ?
How how could anyone choose anything but iginla ??

Wing is our last need. I have at least ten guys ahead of iggy jr. And multiple guys that are equal. Catton is ahead. Lindstrom is ahead. Most if the top six defenders are equal or ahead. Helenius is slightly ahead. Connely is ahead due to position but probably fairly equal. Hes going to he a top line wing but not sure what this utter fascination is with him. If catton lindstrom or helenius is there iggy goes somewhere else. If Dickinson is their hes a flame. Yakemchuk probably a coin toss.

Just how i see it

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Shark will re-sign.

Keep sharango at all costs.

Seriously though love this dude. He looks like Alex Kovalev with effort on the ice.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

You're not wrong about Iginla.

Realistically I don't think the Flames draft him if they're higher than about 13th.

Not sure at which point he's the clear-cut BPA.

[PepsiFree]

If you’re keeping any of them, Sharangovich is obviously at the top of the list. Worst case with a regression he still replaces Mangiapane both offensively and defensively and he’s younger.

Would love to see if Kuzmenko can bounce back next season and produce in the 80 point range.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by Fan69

Top pairing defencemen or top line winger ?
How how could anyone choose anything but iginla ??

Wing is our last need. I have at least ten guys ahead of iggy jr. And multiple guys that are equal. Catton is ahead. Lindstrom is ahead. Most if the top six defenders are equal or ahead. Helenius is slightly ahead. Connely is ahead due to position but probably fairly equal. Hes going to he a top line wing but not sure what this utter fascination is with him. If catton lindstrom or helenius is there iggy goes somewhere else. If Dickinson is their hes a flame. Yakemchuk probably a coin toss.

Just how i see it

I have no interest in Connelly personally. I could very well see him being on a no draft list similar to Ho Sang in the past. The difference in players in that range, especially at 17 and 18 years old is so hard to predict as is. I hope Conroy and co. dont add another layer to that with character issues. I think having iggy jr. 11-13 on a list is totally reasonable though, I just see him being a huge piece for whoever does draft him, same with a lot of guys in the Flames range

[Ba'alzamon]

Originally Posted by Fan69

Top pairing defencemen or top line winger ?
How how could anyone choose anything but iginla ??

Wing is our last need. I have at least ten guys ahead of iggy jr. And multiple guys that are equal. Catton is ahead. Lindstrom is ahead. Most if the top six defenders are equal or ahead. Helenius is slightly ahead. Connely is ahead due to position but probably fairly equal. Hes going to he a top line wing but not sure what this utter fascination is with him. If catton lindstrom or helenius is there iggy goes somewhere else. If Dickinson is their hes a flame. Yakemchuk probably a coin toss.

Just how i see it

Isn't Connelly a LW?

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Kuzmenko just needs to fight off every viral strain circulating this side of the continent so that he's good to go for the full year next season.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

If you’re keeping any of them, Sharangovich is obviously at the top of the list. Worst case with a regression he still replaces Mangiapane both offensively and defensively and he’s younger.

Would love to see if Kuzmenko can bounce back next season and produce in the 80 point range.

I just don't see it in Kuzmenko. He has a lethal shot, but his play otherwise is lacking. He doesn't have that explosive offensive game I thought he may have.

If we can get him popping on the PP, hopefully we can flip him next season for a 2nd or something.

[868904]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

Alright Devils just give us your 1st so we can get Catton and Tij or Tij and Yak

There is no reason to believe that the 2024 1st (unconditional) was ever on the table for the Flames.

I bet the offer was Holtz and the 2025 1st round pick (with conditions that could push it out to 2026), which depending on how you value Holtz, really isn't that good an offer.

I think we need to get over this idea that the Devils made this great offer and the Flames rejected it. If it was a really good offer, the Flames would have taken it. As for the going to Markstrom to waive, at some point, the Flames and Devils were going to have to check with him on the possibility of waiving. The fact they went to him does not mean the offer was ever close to what the Flames wanted. Something was probably lost in the communication between Conroy -> Agent -> Markstrom which led Markstrom to believe a deal was close.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I just don't see it in Kuzmenko. He has a lethal shot, but his play otherwise is lacking. He doesn't have that explosive offensive game I thought he may have.

If we can get him popping on the PP, hopefully we can flip him next season for a 2nd or something.

He’s a year removed from 39 goals/74 points.

And, although super limited, even with a new team and playing up and down the lineup and missing time with illness, his pace on the Flames is 31 goals/50 points.

So I wouldn’t say it’s out of the realm of possibility. A full season, healthy, in a situation where he’s going to be counted on for offence with the Flames, and sure… I can definitely see it as a possibility.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by 868904

There is no reason to believe that the 2024 1st (unconditional) was ever on the table for the Flames.

I bet the offer was Holtz and the 2025 1st round pick (with conditions that could push it out to 2026), which depending on how you value Holtz, really isn't that good an offer.

I think we need to get over this idea that the Devils made this great offer and the Flames rejected it. If it was a really good offer, the Flames would have taken it. As for the going to Markstrom to waive, at some point, the Flames and Devils were going to have to check with him on the possibility of waiving. The fact they went to him does not mean the offer was ever close to what the Flames wanted. Something was probably lost in the communication between Conroy -> Agent -> Markstrom which led Markstrom to believe a deal was close.

It was sort of a joke... but if it happens, cool.

I also think the 2024 wasn't on the table since it would have to be protected based on where they are in the standings. So they wouldnt want to risk the 2025 being unprotected. I dont think its crazy to think that the pick could be on the table this summer rather than Mercer being the line in the sand.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

If you’re keeping any of them, Sharangovich is obviously at the top of the list. Worst case with a regression he still replaces Mangiapane both offensively and defensively and he’s younger.

Would love to see if Kuzmenko can bounce back next season and produce in the 80 point range.

I doubt 80 points is ever in the cards for him, if he couldn’t do that with Pettersson. We simply won’t have the offensive help he needs to get there.

If he can get to 25-25-50, we can likely get some value out of him at the deadline.

[Enoch Root]

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