03-14-2024, 09:03 AM
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#1041
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Thanks for all your hard work Sandman , I really enjoy reading your write ups. Greatly appreciated!!
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03-14-2024, 09:11 AM
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#1042
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Whitefish, MT & Marysville B.C.
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I don't post much but am an avid reader, love your posts sandman.
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03-14-2024, 09:21 AM
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#1043
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Last few years I've done the draft ranking averages.
This year starting early with the Flames not making the playoffs, having two picks, higher up the draft, and day to day results affecting two picks.
Here is the consensus so far in both pick ranges ... (standings +/- 2 spots) (last column is the average)
9 Cole Eiserman LW 9.00
10 Zayne Parekh D 9.40
11 Konsta Helenius C 10.20
12 Carter Yakemchuk D 11.80
13 Luke Misa C 12.00
28 Aron Kiviharju D 23.00
29 Ryder Ritchie RW 23.40
30 Cole Hutson 24.00
31 Michael Hage C 24.60
32 Henry Mews D 25.00
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03-14-2024, 09:35 AM
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#1044
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
What do you think of Aatu Raty? He had 40 pts in 41 games for the same team, almost the same age as Helenius.
Production in those leagues is hard to marry with production in the NHL.
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Raty was one of the oldest players in the draft and in his 18yo season in Liiga was way less pt/gm then Helenius'17yo season. His 19yo season was better.
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03-14-2024, 09:55 AM
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#1045
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
Last few years I've done the draft ranking averages.
This year starting early with the Flames not making the playoffs, having two picks, higher up the draft, and day to day results affecting two picks.
Here is the consensus so far in both pick ranges ... (standings +/- 2 spots) (last column is the average)
9 Cole Eiserman LW 9.00
10 Zayne Parekh D 9.40
11 Konsta Helenius C 10.20
12 Carter Yakemchuk D 11.80
13 Luke Misa C 12.00
28 Aron Kiviharju D 23.00
29 Ryder Ritchie RW 23.40
30 Cole Hutson 24.00
31 Michael Hage C 24.60
32 Henry Mews D 25.00
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What rankings are you using that have Misa that high? Most places I've seen have him 30+
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03-14-2024, 10:27 AM
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#1046
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arsenal14
What rankings are you using that have Misa that high? Most places I've seen have him 30+
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Early in the process so only 5 rankings in ... and SMAHTS had him 12th
If I assign a rank of 33rd to every player not ranked he falls to 28th.
These players tend to fall out of the first round when I get up to 12-15 rankings.
Doing the same gives us these groupings ...
9 Cole Eiserman LW 9.00
10 Zayne Parekh D 9.40
11 Konsta Helenius C 10.20
12 Carter Yakemchuk D 11.80
13 Tij Iginla C 12.60
and ...
28 Luke Misa C 28.80
29 Emil Hemming F 28.80
30 Adam Jecho C 29.20
31 Henry Mews D 29.80
32 Egor Surin 30.60
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03-14-2024, 10:33 AM
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#1047
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Kelowna, BC
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i got a text from a buddy who was at the rockets game last night...
conroy, tod button and peter loubardias were at the game.
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03-14-2024, 10:37 AM
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#1048
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bc-chris
i got a text from a buddy who was at the rockets game last night...
conroy, tod button and peter loubardias were at the game.
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Obviously they were there to scout Terik Parascak on the Cougars.
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03-14-2024, 10:39 AM
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#1049
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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Great opportunity to see 2 players who should be in the Flames 2 x 1st round pick ranges, Iginla being ranked early teens and Parascak being ranked late 20s.
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03-14-2024, 10:41 AM
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#1050
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
Early in the process so only 5 rankings in ... and SMAHTS had him 12th
If I assign a rank of 33rd to every player not ranked he falls to 28th.
These players tend to fall out of the first round when I get up to 12-15 rankings.
Doing the same gives us these groupings ...
9 Cole Eiserman LW 9.00
10 Zayne Parekh D 9.40
11 Konsta Helenius C 10.20
12 Carter Yakemchuk D 11.80
13 Tij Iginla C 12.60
and ...
28 Luke Misa C 28.80
29 Emil Hemming F 28.80
30 Adam Jecho C 29.20
31 Henry Mews D 29.80
32 Egor Surin 30.60
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Thanks for this.
Please include Tij in all rankings regardless of where he falls... 
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03-14-2024, 10:41 AM
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#1051
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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The Flames desperately need an elite center. Anyone have a break down of the centers and the range they might land in so I can start day dreaming?
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03-14-2024, 10:50 AM
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#1052
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
The Flames desperately need an elite center. Anyone have a break down of the centers and the range they might land in so I can start day dreaming?
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Macklin Celebrini - 1st OA
Cayden Lindstrom- 2-12th OA
Konsta Helenius- 6 to 12th OA
Berkley Catton- 6 to 12 OA
Tij Iginla(maybe a center)- 6 to 12th OA
Trevor Connelly(buyer beware off ice issues) mid 1st to who knows
Sasha Boisvert mid/late 1st
Micheal Hage mid/late 1st
Ryder Ritchie late 1st
In that order
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03-14-2024, 11:01 AM
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#1053
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Macklin Celebrini - 1st OA
Cayden Lindstrom- 2-12th OA
Konsta Helenius- 6 to 12th OA
Berkley Catton- 6 to 12 OA
Tij Iginla(maybe a center)- 6 to 12th OA
Trevor Connelly(buyer beware off ice issues) mid 1st to who knows
Sasha Boisvert mid/late 1st
Micheal Hage mid/late 1st
Ryder Ritchie late 1st
In that order
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Trevor Connelly's baggage reminds me of Josh Allen having racist tweets exposed before his draft day. I think we can file Connelly under young and dumb. Unless I'm missing something.
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03-14-2024, 11:03 AM
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#1054
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
I think we can file Connelly under young and dumb. Unless I'm missing something.
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I agree with you, but, not sure society accepts the 'young and dumb' defense anymore.
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03-14-2024, 11:04 AM
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#1055
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Feb 2024
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Macklin Celebrini - 1st OA
Cayden Lindstrom- 2-12th OA
Konsta Helenius- 6 to 12th OA
Berkley Catton- 6 to 12 OA
Tij Iginla(maybe a center)- 6 to 12th OA
Trevor Connelly(buyer beware off ice issues) mid 1st to who knows
Sasha Boisvert mid/late 1st
Micheal Hage mid/late 1st
Ryder Ritchie late 1st
In that order
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I have seen Ryder Ritchie listed as a winger only, where he listed as a C?
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03-14-2024, 11:05 AM
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#1056
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fonz
I agree with you, but, not sure society accepts the 'young and dumb' defense anymore.
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The Flames also drafted two rapists in the last 6 years, so who knows if they want that media.
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03-14-2024, 11:07 AM
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#1057
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
Trevor Connelly's baggage reminds me of Josh Allen having racist tweets exposed before his draft day. I think we can file Connelly under young and dumb. Unless I'm missing something.
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Might be more acceptable in the NFL. Bosa had the same issue.
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03-14-2024, 11:07 AM
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#1058
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
The Flames also drafted two rapists in the last 6 years, so who knows if they want that media.
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Not you ...
But only an idiot would draw that line when players are drafted and then do something stupid vs drafting someone who is falling in the draft because he's already done something stupid.
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03-14-2024, 11:11 AM
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#1059
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
Not you ...
But only an idiot would draw that line when players are drafted and then do something stupid vs drafting someone who is falling in the draft because he's already done something stupid.
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Idiots are abound and the press loves nothing more than bad news.
I for one would draft Connolly if he was the BPA, he said something stupid on the internet at 16. its not like he was forcing neurodivergent kids to eat candy out of a urinal.
But I understand why the Flames would be leery after Dube and Roni.
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03-14-2024, 11:15 AM
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#1060
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Truculent!
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Connolly has shown repeatedly that this wasn't a one off situation. Kid can't stay on a team for very long cause he's a piece of ####.
Pass on him.
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