03-13-2024, 04:29 PM
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#361
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Nachodamus.
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Join date Mar 2024, Ignore list add Mar 2024. I've never had someone earn an ignore so fast in my near 2 decades here.
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03-13-2024, 04:29 PM
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#362
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dgibb10
Boston tried to trade Ullmark.
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Not to New Jersey, they didn't. Fitzgerald bitched about it openly.
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Nashville is in a playoff spot
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Fitzgerald bitched about that one too.
He's made offers on three starting goalies, and all three were rejected. But somehow you take his word as gospel in deciding where the market is?
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03-13-2024, 04:33 PM
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#363
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Mar 2024
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Originally Posted by Jay Random
Not to New Jersey, they didn't. Fitzgerald bitched about it openly.
Fitzgerald bitched about that one too.
He's made offers on three starting goalies, and all three were rejected. But somehow you take his word as gospel in deciding where the market is?
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My valuation of the market is based on what goaltenders have historically and recently received in terms of where they are drafted, the contracts they receive, and how much they receive in trades.
Fitzgerald was almost certainly speaking about 1 team, that has a GM who apparently isn't qualified to make his own trades without intervention from ownership
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03-13-2024, 04:34 PM
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#364
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dgibb10
My valuation of the market is based on what goaltenders have historically and recently received in terms of where they are drafted, the contracts they receive, and how much they receive in trades.
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Yet none of those goalies moved at the price you (and Fitzgerald) thought they should have.
Since transactions did not occur at your valuation, clearly your valuation is wrong.
I repeat, Fitzgerald was talking about THREE TEAMS, not one. Craig Conroy had no say in Boston refusing to trade Ullmark or Nashville refusing to trade Saros.
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Last edited by Jay Random; 03-13-2024 at 04:37 PM.
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03-13-2024, 04:36 PM
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#365
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: The real "Cowtown"
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Originally Posted by dgibb10
Conroy should be thanking me. Because the expectations on here are WAYY off of reality, which will lead to a lot of flames fans upset, whether he trades him for market value (significantly less than expectations on here), or gets nothing for him.
In reality, Mercer was never on the table for Markstrom, just like he was never on the table for Meier. I remember when sharks fans were convinced they'd get Mercer+Holtz+1st for Meier
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03-13-2024, 04:37 PM
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#366
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Mar 2024
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Originally Posted by Jay Random
Yet none of those goalies moved at the price you (and Fitzgerald) thought they should have.
Since transactions did not occur at your valuation, clearly your valuation is wrong.
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2 teams with reasons to keep their goalies (to help them win a cup), and then Calgary with their ticking time bomb that appears to have went off (0.878 since the trade rumours started)
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03-13-2024, 04:39 PM
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#367
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dgibb10
Wanting opposing viewpoints banned while claiming it isn't an echo chamber. hmmmm
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I don't want you banned because you have an opposing viewpoint, I want you banned because you're an annoying a$$hole
Not surprised you're too stupid to figure that out either
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03-13-2024, 04:40 PM
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#368
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dgibb10
2 teams with reasons to keep their goalies (to help them win a cup), and then Calgary with their ticking time bomb that appears to have went off (0.878 since the trade rumours started)
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Markstrom was never on the market. Fitzgerald tried to buy him but wouldn't pay the price of the asset.
Fitzgerald also tried to buy two other goalies who weren't on the market. He wouldn't pay the price of those assets either.
I'm coming round to the view that you are not only a concern troll, but an alarmingly stupid person.
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03-13-2024, 04:41 PM
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#369
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Mar 2024
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Originally Posted by Jay Random
Markstrom was never on the market. Fitzgerald tried to buy him but wouldn't pay the price of the asset.
Fitzgerald also tried to buy two other goalies who weren't on the market. He wouldn't pay the price of those assets either.
I'm coming round to the view that you are not only a concern troll, but an alarmingly stupid person.
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Fitzgerald in fact did pay the price. Unfortunately he didn't know that Conroy didn't have the clearance to trade anything but a rental that doesn't want to resign.
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03-13-2024, 04:43 PM
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#370
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Lanny'sDaMan
Join date Mar 2024, Ignore list add Mar 2024. I've never had someone earn an ignore so fast in my near 2 decades here.
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Gaudreauvertime was pretty close lol
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03-13-2024, 04:46 PM
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#371
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Nachodamus.
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Originally Posted by Gaskal
Gaudreauvertime was pretty close lol
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Yeah, he was fast too, but took at least 2 months to earn his spot. This goober took less than two weeks FFS
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03-13-2024, 04:46 PM
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#372
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dgibb10
Fitzgerald in fact did pay the price.
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No, he did not, or the trade would have gone through. Instead he went dumpster-diving in Montreal, and paid a fraction of the price for a much worse goalie.
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Unfortunately he didn't know that Conroy didn't have the clearance to trade anything but a rental that doesn't want to resign.
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Nobody could have known that, since it is not true. Moreover, it's not relevant, because these decisions are made nowadays by the hockey operations staff working in concert. The HO office of the Flames, collectively, gave the thumbs down to Jersey's offer.
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03-13-2024, 04:48 PM
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#373
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First Line Centre
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Lol, Markstrom's their guy. I know that because when I google Marty Brodeur it still says he's employed there.
It'll be their 24 first for Marky full retain. Fitz saves a bit of face. We rid ourselves of this gobble dee goop poster forever. Everyone wins.
Last edited by Major Major; 03-13-2024 at 04:51 PM.
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03-13-2024, 04:48 PM
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#374
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Gaskal
Gaudreauvertime was pretty close lol
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What a waste of a good handle.
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03-13-2024, 04:49 PM
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#375
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by dammage79
Holtz IMO, is gonna end up like Eli Tolvanen, a pariah until he gets to another team and then, oh look, there's a really good player there
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Holtz's upside is Kuzmenko imo.
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03-13-2024, 04:51 PM
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#376
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by dgibb10
Since these alleged NJD offers the flames have burned a year (by far his most valuable year) of his value, and Markstrom has had an 0.878 sv%, negative GSAx, and 3.48 GAA.
Any attempt to convince flames fans that his value hasn't dropped, and dropped significantly, is lying to you.
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Once again you are wrong.
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03-13-2024, 04:53 PM
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#377
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Mar 2024
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Originally Posted by Major Major
Lol, Markstrom's their guy. I know that because when I google Marty Brodeur it still says he's employed there.
It'll be their 24 first for Marky full retain. Fitz saves a bit of face. We rid ourselves of this gobble dee goop poster forever. Everyone wins.
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Big step down from Holtz+2024 1st for Markstrom unretained.
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03-13-2024, 04:53 PM
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#378
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dgibb10
Big step down from Holtz+2024 1st for Markstrom unretained.
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I thought we had established that the Devils never made that offer. Sources in the know say it was a protected 2025 1st, and I believe that was on the initial offer, which included retention.
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03-13-2024, 04:53 PM
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#379
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by dgibb10
-Breaks up the echo chamber
-Helps makes flames fans less disappointed when the return is inevitably significantly less than they were expecting as always
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You forgot the main reason, gets a rise out of Flames fans because that is what gets you off. If I ever get so pathetic I have to go to another teams fan board just to try and stir the pot for my own entertainment please shoot me.
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03-13-2024, 04:56 PM
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#380
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Mar 2024
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
Once again you are wrong.
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Markstrom has been playing badly since the rumours started. The numbers don't lie (and this includes mostly games with Hanifin and Tanev).
Markstrom now has 1 less year of value.
Markstrom has now publicly voiced his displeasure with Calgary's front office/ownership.
Markstrom will now be entering his age 35 season.
More sellers will be coming out as well as a number of freely available stopgaps via free agency.
Convincing yourself that his value hasn't dropped is lying to yourself.
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