10-20-2023, 10:42 AM
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#101
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Monahammer
You are still misunderstanding the point entirely- but I actually don't think you're capable of understanding it. Including the word SIMPLE, even if it's not what you intend, trivializes the nature of the accusation. It's not simple. Don't describe it like that.
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Your interpretation of the word 'simple' is incorrect. I can't help you with your interpretation, if that is how you want to take it and be triggered by it, that's your choice. The intention is what matters - in this case the word 'simple' describes an accusation over a conviction, and in that context it can correctly be described as a simple accusation. In any case, the semantics don't matter - it's been stated several times that no one here is diminishing the difficulty for a victim to come forward with a rape accusation - that should be enough for you. That's not what you want though.
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11-06-2023, 07:28 AM
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#102
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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03-12-2024, 08:53 AM
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#104
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by The Original FFIV
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Finnish journalist Miikka Lahtinen is reporting the same sentence has been ruled to Rönni, while also mentioning that the ruling is not legally binding.
Not really sure if it isn't legally binding. Although, his boxcar stats don't look like he will make it a conversation anyways.
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03-12-2024, 09:04 AM
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#105
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First Line Centre
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I can't cheer for rapists.
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03-12-2024, 09:14 AM
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#106
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#1 Goaltender
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Ya goodbye
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03-12-2024, 09:31 AM
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#107
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Kelowna, B.C.
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If Edmonton had any draft picks left, they'd gladly trade us for him.
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03-12-2024, 09:35 AM
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#108
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Weird sentence.
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03-12-2024, 10:24 AM
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#109
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Franchise Player
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Yeah, is it just a 1 year suspended sentence because he was a minor? I don't know the Finnish system, but that seems light. And not legally binding? That seems weird.
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03-12-2024, 10:30 AM
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#110
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Robbob
Yeah, is it just a 1 year suspended sentence because he was a minor? I don't know the Finnish system, but that seems light. And not legally binding? That seems weird.
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I've seen no facts. Is it possible this was a technical lack of consent because the victim was underage (say 15 to his 17) and they lack Romeo and Juliet laws? So he was technically guilty but they went easy because of that?
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03-12-2024, 10:44 AM
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#111
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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I wonder if by “not final”/“not legally binding” they mean that the sentence is up for appeal…which is standard here too.
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03-12-2024, 10:48 AM
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#112
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Kelowna, B.C.
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
I've seen no facts. Is it possible this was a technical lack of consent because the victim was underage (say 15 to his 17) and they lack Romeo and Juliet laws? So he was technically guilty but they went easy because of that?
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With the team allowing him to return and with what seems like an odd sentence for "rape", this is a strong possibility.
A quick search suggests that the age for sexual consent is 16 years old in Finland.
If this is turns out to be the case, I'll put down the pitchfork and not feel that drafting him was a mistake.
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03-12-2024, 11:04 AM
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#113
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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I don’t know innocent people dont get sentenced
Whether you forgive and give him a second chance is a different debate
But drafting him was a colossal mistake in many ways. I doubt that they will sign him. He is just not a good hockey player.
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03-12-2024, 11:08 AM
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#114
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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No exoneration and enough evidence to give a sentence (as odd as that sentence might be).
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03-12-2024, 11:28 AM
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#115
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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03-12-2024, 11:36 AM
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#116
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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I think that is enough of a sign that it is the end of the road.
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03-12-2024, 11:37 AM
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#117
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Another european drafted player bites the dust.
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03-12-2024, 11:39 AM
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#118
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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it's not like we could have used that pick to take Lane Hutson (Habs, 62nd overall) or something...blargh
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03-12-2024, 11:41 AM
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#119
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by cral12
it's not like we could have used that pick to take Lane Hutson (Habs, 62nd overall) or something...blargh
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03-12-2024, 11:42 AM
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#120
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#1 Goaltender
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In an alternate universe, Vasilevskiy, Kucherov, Stankoven, Point, Hutson are all Flames
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