He's amazing in his role. He's got the traditional starfleet officer ability to solve every problem at any time BUT he's a neurotic mess like a normal person. So he's able to solve problems while being Larry David.
Like I said, whatever you want say about weirdo Barclay, Schultz kills it in that role. Huge credit to his acting chops.
I remember watching the show as a kid and its like "Oh Barclay! You lunatic!"
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Worf in the early seasons reminds me of a Pitbull. Fiercely loyal but ready to attack at any moment if his Masters (Picard/Riker) aren't there.
When Data was in command? He treats him like garbage until he gets put in his place.
And since I'm doing this little re-watch, I shall invoke one of Worf's best lines!
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As someone who got promoted over others that I held a very similar level of role too, Worf's reaction is pretty accurate!
Besides, no one in Starfleet wants to work under Data. Dobson was like "ew no"
Yeah, that was actually funny. You'd think they'd love to work under Data! Every time Data takes command I think of that scene in The Orville where Gordon sticks Mr. Potato Head pieces onto Isaac.
In my mini-rewatch I'm at the Locarno episode, shout out to Calgary!
Man does Robert Mcneill play a first-class sleazeball.
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I started doing a re-watch of TNG when I got my spin bike downstairs, something to watch but doesn't demand my full attention. Except I started from episode 1 like a true fan.
I'm up to like season 3 episode 6 now, the first one where Geordi has the holographic Brahms. I had to laugh at 'The Bonding', where Worf bonds with little Jeremy as blood brothers and new family to replace his dead parents, and then we never see or hear about Jeremy ever again. Even his Memory Beta entry isn't that interesting. Poor Jeremy.
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I'm up to like season 3 episode 6 now, the first one where Geordi has the holographic Brahms. I had to laugh at 'The Bonding', where Worf bonds with little Jeremy as blood brothers and new family to replace his dead parents, and then we never see or hear about Jeremy ever again. Even his Memory Beta entry isn't that interesting. Poor Jeremy.
I would have liked a story of him dying in DS9 at the end of season 6 to add to Worf's vert not good, ungood, bad, unhappy day.
Youre now right at the point where things are actually starting to get good. The first few episodes other than The Survivors is very S1/S2 in quality but then you get to The Enemy and it starts building something great.
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Lol...its been so long since I did a re-watch. It just gets better and better.
I laughed aloud when Lwaxana Troi got into an argument with the Ship's computer.
I recall Lwaxana as a character being super unpopular at the time and through a lot of the early big internet years but I think she is great. Her first appearance is the only soft one, and after that she's great. All her TNG appearances but also her relationship with Odo in DS9. She's vibrant, whimsical and fun juxtaposed with the overly serious Starfleet foils.
I'm watching 'Time's Arrow' again and there are so many little things, but when Data is wandering through old timey San Francisco looking for 'temporary lodging' and says..."Poker?"
Everything about Spiner just sells that line.
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I'm watching 'Time's Arrow' again and there are so many little things, but when Data is wandering through old timey San Francisco looking for 'temporary lodging' and says..."Poker?"
Everything about Spiner just sells that line.
Think about how much previous characterization had to have been done for that one word to have such meaning.
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Okay so I'm watching all the Star Trek films in order for the first time and I just finished what I've heard was the worst Star Trek movie ever in 5 The Final Frontier and I have to say I didn't hate it. I liked others more but I was expecting Superman IV Quest for Peace levels of bad and I didn't see it, although I did notice that the special effects weren't as good as previous films. I have a very limited knowledge of Trek but for me I'd re-watch this over the first film. At times it kinda felt like Dune mixed with Mad Max and at others it felt like I was watching space 10 Commandments. Curious, why is it universally hates by fans?
I don't hate it either. At it's core, it's a good story about the nature of friendship and how it makes life worthwile.
That being said, I think it's derision is generally linked to how it was basically a pet project for Shatner who saw Nimoy's success with the previous 2 movies and said...."there's no way that guy is upstaging me!".
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It's better than its reputation. I still don't fundamentally think it works. It's trying to be a comedy like TVH AND a deep spiritual (literal) search for God. Production also ran out of money so a whole action sequence in the final act was cut.
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It's better than its reputation. I still don't fundamentally think it works. It's trying to be a comedy like TVH AND a deep spiritual (literal) search for God. Production also ran out of money so a whole action sequence in the final act was cut.
5 was a Shat vs. Nimoy dick-measuring contest.
Voyage Home knocked it out of the Park, you had several Spock-centric films and frankly...the Shat isn't all that creative...
Basically...5 was all over the place, the budget was a mess and Shatner was just running by the seat of his pants assuming he'd be given anything he asked for and when the money ran out they just slapped the rest of the film together and tossed it in the can.
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Basically...5 was all over the place, the budget was a mess and Shatner was just running by the seat of his pants assuming he'd be given anything he asked for and when the money ran out they just slapped the rest of the film together and tossed it in the can.
That's an incredibly unfair assessment. The writers strike absolutely hamstrung its schedule.
Nimoy was a better director. We know that with hindsight, but it isn't fair to claim Shatner wasn't creative enough, was planning poorly or was assuming things would get done simply because he was him. Re-writes, the studio and a rushed production all played a major role in the developmental hell this movie got mired in.
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Voyage Home knocked it out of the Park, you had several Spock-centric films and frankly...the Shat isn't all that creative...
Basically...5 was all over the place, the budget was a mess and Shatner was just running by the seat of his pants assuming he'd be given anything he asked for and when the money ran out they just slapped the rest of the film together and tossed it in the can.
If you read Shatner's book when he talked about making that movie, his ideas were oscar worthy and he was failed by the studio and their reluctance to give him money, and the incompetence of the special effects people.
Look for the most part Star Trek V was a poor movie, most of the characters completely acted out of character and we ended up with a horny Uhura pining for Scotty.
But I will say there was some good in it. the campfire scene in the beginning and end were great.
The search for god, I kinda dug that idea though introducing Spocks half brother with the power to brain wash people was poorly done, and the Klingon stuff was kinda stupid.
There was a good story line built in there somewhere.
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And plus now we know Sybok is canonically queer because he dated the enby trans femme space pirate in SNW. Which like, as a religious trauma queer myself, mood.
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