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		|  01-29-2024, 12:51 PM | #181 |  
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					Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent  We don't even know what Wolf is yet. 
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and I know what the Sharks and Hawks are
		 
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		|  03-10-2024, 01:40 PM | #182 |  
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					Originally Posted by bigrangy  Update:
 Flames pick is 9th right now.
 
 They’re two points out of 6th.
 
 If they had another 4 points, it would be 15th.
 
 Every game matters, although I don’t feel bad about taking points off of the Hawks last night, some losses are not worth it.
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From Jan 28th to now, the Flames have gained 5 positions in the standings. They're currently picking 14th. Fortunately, they're still only 2ish points out from picking 8th. Every loss at this point relative to the competing tanks is basically worth a 3rd rounder or so. 
 
Vegas is 8 points clear now, playoffs aren't happening.  Get the best pick you can now.
		 
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		|  03-10-2024, 01:45 PM | #183 |  
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					Originally Posted by bigrangy  Vegas is 8 points clear now, playoffs aren't happening.  Get the best pick you can now. |  
You think any coach in the history of sports is going to tell his players to lose deliberately for six straight weeks?
 
‘Get the best pick you can’ is not a consideration for the guys actually playing the games. Everybody knows this, except for those peculiar fans who think the object of the game is to lose lots and draft high.
		 
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		|  03-10-2024, 01:56 PM | #184 |  
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			They are not going to lose a lot as long as they keep starting Markstrom.
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		|  03-10-2024, 02:27 PM | #185 |  
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			Markstrom's a meanie, keeping us from Celebrini.
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		|  03-10-2024, 03:06 PM | #186 |  
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					Originally Posted by CF84  Markstrom's a meanie, keeping us from Celebrini. |  
The Flames without Markstrom are still not as bad as San Jose (28 points back) or Chicago (30 points back). There are some scary terribad teams in the NHL this year.
		 
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		|  03-10-2024, 03:27 PM | #187 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jay Random  The Flames without Markstrom are still not as bad as San Jose (28 points back) or Chicago (30 points back). There are some scary terribad teams in the NHL this year. |  
But they could be in the anaheim, blues jackets and senators range.
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		|  03-10-2024, 03:54 PM | #188 |  
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					Originally Posted by traptor  But they could be in the anaheim, blues jackets and senators range. |  
Likely not, as those teams simply don’t win enough to make up that kind of difference.
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		|  03-10-2024, 03:56 PM | #189 |  
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					Originally Posted by The Cobra  Likely not, as those teams simply don’t win enough to make up that kind of difference. |  
I think traptor means if the Flames had been without Markstrom all season. At any rate, that's the hypothetical I was going for.
 
The thing is, even being that bad doesn't give you good odds of the top-3 pick that the scorched-earth fans say is so essential. The only way to guarantee yourself a top-3 pick is to finish dead last. Anything else, the odds are against you.
		 
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		|  03-10-2024, 04:01 PM | #190 |  
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			“Tank for Celebrini”
 I believe the genus of the “tank for….” thread, was with Oiler fans
 I’m disappointed to see we are no better
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		|  03-10-2024, 04:06 PM | #191 |  
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					Originally Posted by All In Good Time  “Tank for Celebrini”
 I believe the genus of the “tank for….” thread, was with Oiler fans
 I’m disappointed to see we are no better
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I remember “Fail for Nail”.  They deserved what they got there.
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		|  03-10-2024, 04:08 PM | #192 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jay Random  I think traptor means if the Flames had been without Markstrom all season. At any rate, that's the hypothetical I was going for.
 The thing is, even being that bad doesn't give you good odds of the top-3 pick that the scorched-earth fans say is so essential. The only way to guarantee yourself a top-3 pick is to finish dead last. Anything else, the odds are against you.
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Dead last in the league doesn't get you close to a guarantee.
		 
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		|  03-10-2024, 04:11 PM | #193 |  
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			Have some pride, boys.  You can't just quit!!
		 
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		|  03-10-2024, 04:14 PM | #194 |  
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			Easy to win fights when you jump somebody.  Lemiuex is a chicken#### just like his old man.
		 
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		|  03-10-2024, 04:44 PM | #195 |  
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					Originally Posted by D as in David  Dead last in the league doesn't get you close to a guarantee. |  
It gets you a guaranteed top 3.
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		|  03-10-2024, 05:32 PM | #196 |  
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					Originally Posted by The Cobra  It gets you a guaranteed top 3. |  
I forgot how that works - thanks!
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		|  03-10-2024, 05:37 PM | #197 |  
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			It also guarantees you have the best odds to get the #1 pick
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		|  03-10-2024, 05:38 PM | #198 |  
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					Originally Posted by D as in David  I forgot how that works - thanks! |  
Dead last guarantees you  
1. A lottery ticket with better odds  
2. Losing more than anyone else  
3. Finishing (your season) early, which is never considered good
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		|  03-10-2024, 05:46 PM | #199 |  
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		|  03-10-2024, 05:50 PM | #200 |  
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			being mediocre is borrowing from peter to pay paul.
		 
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