[Rumour] Dreger: Markstrom trade won't happen unless NJ includes Mercer and higher draft pick

[The Fonz]

Wow NJ is a shyt run organization. And their fans suck too.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by dgibb10

Again, Jacob Markstrom seems to have really guaranteed calgary playoff success when they were competing.

Wait, my sources are telling me he won 1 playoff round, actively hurt his team in 2 years, and #### the bed vs the teams biggest rival in the playoffs the only time he made it letting in 5 goals a game.

You’re still behind us… after multiple lottery picks because your goaltending has been trash for yet another year. Hughes has vocally called out their goaltending and it may have gotten even worse. I’m sure when you miss yet again you’ll be realllll quiet here

[musth]

Originally Posted by dgibb10

Bet he outlasts Conroy.

Conroy got bailed out of some horrific contracts by the fact that nobody wants to play in calgary.

Intentions to spend 17+ million on Hanifin and Lindholm

OH, I’ll take that bet, right now

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dgibb10

He really shouldn't. Mercer alone would be a massive overpay unless it was Hanifin+Markstrom for Mercer. More than any goalie has gotten in decades

If any offer involving mercer was on the table (Hint, it wasn't), Conroy should be fired for not taking it.

The Devils, with Markstrom and without Mercer, are a better team than the Devils, with Mercer and without Markstrom.

Bottom line.

[dgibb10]

Originally Posted by devo22

I don't know how Devils fans feel about Fitz, but hard to imagine they are happy with him right now. The Toffoli-Sharangovich trade tree doesn't look particularly good for him, and instead of adding a much-needed star goalie, he pays a 3rd (or even 2nd) for Allen und accuses other GMs of extortion. Just feels he's wasting a part of their window and I'd be surprised if fans were happy with his work this year.

I am quite thankful he hasn't overpaid for a goalie.

His biggest mistake was not promoting Brunnette to head coach this offseason.

[dgibb10]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

The Devils, with Markstrom and without Mercer, are a better team than the Devils, with Mercer and without Markstrom.

Bottom line.

Maybe this year.

Next year, probably nope
2 years from now, definitely not

then you have the next 6 years of mercer (Assuming he gets the full 8 years) and nothing to show for it with Markstrom

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dgibb10

Again, Jacob Markstrom seems to have really guaranteed calgary playoff success when they were competing.

Wait, my sources are telling me he won 1 playoff round, actively hurt his team in 2 years, and #### the bed vs the teams biggest rival in the playoffs the only time he made it letting in 5 goals a game.

Enjoy watching the Rangers in the playoffs

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by dgibb10

I am quite thankful he hasn't overpaid for a goalie.

His biggest mistake was not promoting Brunnette to head coach this offseason.

You’re thankful why? Because Mercer is winning you games?

[dgibb10]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

You’re thankful why? Because Mercer is winning you games?

Because he isn't incredibly shortsighted.

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Wow NJ is a shyt run organization. And their fans suck too.

And the city stinks. Like a diaper that fell behind the couch and landed on the heat vent.

Also very dirty.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by dgibb10

He really shouldn't. Mercer alone would be a massive overpay unless it was Hanifin+Markstrom for Mercer. More than any goalie has gotten in decades

If any offer involving mercer was on the table (Hint, it wasn't), Conroy should be fired for not taking it.

Kind of funny that Sharangovich's numbers this year have a completely unsustainable shooting percentage of 17.8%, but you are pinning Mercer's value in his completely sustainable and normal shooting percentage of 16.8% last year.

Kind of seems like you are projecting in saying Flames fans over value their players.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by dgibb10

Tom Fitzgerald should be fired if he trades Mercer+1st for Markstrom.

Not if it comes with 50% retention.

If they made this trade a month ago it would have been 2.5 years of Markstrom for $3.0M.

Markstrom @ $3.0M gives New Jersey a better chance at winning a cup over the next 2.5 seasons (when you have Hughes and Nemec on ELCs) than Mercer + 1st would have.

Retaining 50% of Markstrom over those 2.5 seasons is worth a 1st on it's own according to cap valuation calculators.

So really to me that works out as:

Mercer for Markstrom
1st for $6.9M of cap savings (had they made the trade a month ago)

I get they don't want to move Mercer...but I honestly think it would have been moving from a position of strength for New Jersey.

You have Hischier and Hughes as your top 6 centers for the foreseeable future...Mercer isn't taking a role at center.

On wing they had Bratt, Meier, Toffoli (if they trade for Markstrom a month ago he's likely a Devil still), Palat, Holtz, etc.

So it's a position of strength for the Devils. It would be a slight overpayment, but with 50% salary retention it gives them a great chance to win a cup.

[dgibb10]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

You’re still behind us… after multiple lottery picks because your goaltending has been trash for yet another year. Hughes has vocally called out their goaltending and it may have gotten even worse. I’m sure when you miss yet again you’ll be realllll quiet here

Yes. Markstrom is having a historical outlier season for himself. The worst thing you can do is buy high on goaltending outlier seasons.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by dgibb10

Because he isn't incredibly shortsighted.

May as well waste another year of Bratt and the Hughes I guess.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by dgibb10

Again, Jacob Markstrom seems to have really guaranteed calgary playoff success when they were competing.

Wait, my sources are telling me he won 1 playoff round, actively hurt his team in 2 years, and #### the bed vs the teams biggest rival in the playoffs the only time he made it letting in 5 goals a game.

So then why was Fitz actively pursuing Markstrom? You must think he's a moron then correct?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dgibb10

Bet he outlasts Conroy.

Conroy got bailed out of some horrific contracts by the fact that nobody wants to play in calgary.

Intentions to spend 17+ million on Hanifin and Lindholm

I will take that bet - and I'm there for size

(not that I think you have the backbone for this, nor the integrity to follow through)

[rogermexico]

We really need a post-per-day maximum on brand new troll bot accounts.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

So then why was Fitz actively pursuing Markstrom? You must think he's a moron then correct?

This troll is the classic “she’s ugly anyways” when a girl rejects him

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dgibb10

Yes. Markstrom is having a historical outlier season for himself. The worst thing you can do is buy high on goaltending outlier seasons.

.911 is not an outlier for Markstrom, go look at his career.

Last year was the outlier.

[dgibb10]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

.911 is not an outlier for Markstrom, go look at his career.

Last year was the outlier.

I'm talking about GSAx. But if you want to talk about save% as the metric for goalies a 0.911 certainly isn't worth the moon. Jordan Binnington has higher