[Trade] Jake Allen (50% retained) to NJ for a cond 2025 3rd

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by Bonded

lol. At least we can end the argument that Markstrom has more value in the offseason and Jersey will be standing there still.

NJ's got their Vezina calibre goalie now, so no need to upgrade any longer lol.

If anything, we might be taking on Allen's contract when he sucks for the Devils, and Fitz comes crawling back to Conroy.

[musth]

Plot twist, nj still trading for marks, but we’re getting Allen at 25% salary ��

[Jiggy_12]

LOL so basically the Devils traded Toffoli for Allen & a 3rd.

LMAO


Edit: Actually this is basically Sharangovich & Suniev for Allen & a 3rd

[Hells Bells]

Originally Posted by flambers

Was not my quote, personally I think the Habs made a really good trade

Getting anything for Allen is a good trade for the Habs.

Saying they bested the Flames makes no sense though, that's my point.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I still think the Flames have to trade Markstrom.

Retaining Markstrom and playing him next season will likely mean the Flames lose their 11th-15th overall pick in 2025, and instead get to enjoy Florida's 28th-32nd.

Flames need to secure a bottom-10 pick next year.

!@#$ing Treliving.

As of last time I looked the Flames are picking 11th in 2024, playing Markstrom heavily. That's with Tanev, Hanifin in front of him (and Zadorov). What makes you think they don't drop? Pachal was a nice find and maybe Miromanov works out to some degree, but it's a much worse D corps, plus they are going to have generally younger forwards as well.

Markstrom played well last night and still had 3 goals against - 2 at least due to poor D coverage.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Because… they have Jake Allen at $1.5 mil???????

Now they’ll have two goalies to dump and I highly doubt they’ll blink in the offseason to pay up for Markstrom with less time on his contract. Sounds like the goalies don’t matter analytic guys won in New Jersey.

[sureLoss]

Condition on the pick is that Allen has to play 40 games to upgrade the 3rd to a 2nd.

[Roof-Daddy]

Goalies are such voodoo.

Allen looks cooked but watch him pull a rabbit out of his hat and go back to being STL Blue Jake Allen for a couple months and run Jersey into the playoffs.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

As of last time I looked the Flames are picking 11th in 2024, playing Markstrom heavily. That's with Tanev, Hanifin in front of him (and Zadorov). What makes you think they don't drop? Pachal was a nice find and maybe Miromanov works out to some degree, but it's a much worse D corps, plus they are going to have generally younger forwards as well.

Markstrom played well last night and still had 3 goals against - 2 at least due to poor D coverage.

What’s the upside of keeping him into next season though? To be slightly better than they would be without him.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Bonded

lol. At least we can end the argument that Markstrom has more value in the offseason and Jersey will be standing there still.

We 100% can not end that convo. This move actually means nothing to that unless Allen wins their confidence in the next month and half.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Condition on the pick is that Allen has to play 40 games to upgrade the 3rd to a 2nd.

So essentially - they are better off trade wise if Allen is the back-up goalie.

[Zulu29]

Lmao! Why even bother getting Allen? He’s at best equal to your current goaltenders and more likely worse. I don’t get this one at all. Trying to rub it in Conroy’s face or something? I cannot understand this one at all.

[CSharp]

That'll be awesome if Flames actually make the playoffs, gets past the first round and NJD is sitting out of the playoff spot with Jake Allen wondering What-if. Fitz should be fired - he had all of November through all of January to bolster his team and end up firing Ruff and getting Allen. What a joke!

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Well, there goes the main landing spot for Markstrom. The market shrinks, as Allen is under contract next year.

Except he isn't very good

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

So essentially - they are better off trade wise if Allen is the back-up goalie.

The condition on the trade actually highlights NJs mindset on this, and how it relates to people saying Marky is off the table.

They realize this is a plan B hail Mary. The condition is basically, we'll pay you a 2nd if he becomes our long term solution, if he ends up being just our throw spaghetti on the wall attempt to make the playoffs this year, we'll pay you a 3rd for that.

NJ has hedged the price on this move, knowing they may need to dip back into the goalie market later to solve their problem.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

3.65 and .892 this year. Atrocious.

He'll fit right in!

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Now they’ll have two goalies to dump and I highly doubt they’ll blink in the offseason to pay up for Markstrom with less time on his contract. Sounds like the goalies don’t matter analytic guys won in New Jersey.

They need a backup, they’ll have one to dump. Allen will be the backup…

This hasn’t put anything to rest.

[Flamesfan05]

Shot in the dark. Probably a big miss but you never know

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

LOL so basically the Devils traded Toffoli for Allen & a 3rd.

LMAO


Edit: Actually this is basically Sharangovich & Suniev for Allen & a 3rd

I just don't get it. They were already selling by getting rid of one of their better forwards for draft picks. There is no point on making a minor upgrade on goaltending at this point. It's not like Allen being available right now was too good to be true and they had to jump on it.

I'd be so confused if I was a Devils fan.

[Canada 02]

betting a 2nd round pick that he plays <40 of the 101 games this season and next. Pretty much implies he will be a back up

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