03-07-2024, 10:32 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Those pick conditions are woof for Pittsburgh.
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03-07-2024, 10:32 PM
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#42
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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The Canes keep all their top prospects. Don't even give up a guaranteed 1st. Seems like a massive win for the Canes.
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03-07-2024, 10:33 PM
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#43
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Feels like the Phaneuf trade
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03-07-2024, 10:34 PM
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#44
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Ville Koivunen being a point per game in the Finnish league as a 20 year old center is very impressive.
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03-07-2024, 10:35 PM
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#45
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Scoring Winger
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Buyers market for sure. Jeez. Lindholm trade looks the best so far.
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03-07-2024, 10:35 PM
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#46
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Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
There isn't a single A-tier asset going back to Pittsburgh in this trade and I'd hesitate to really call any of the prospects B-tier, even.
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Same tier as the prospects the Flames got . Nobody traded A tier prospect.
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03-07-2024, 10:36 PM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
Same tier as the prospects the Flames got . Nobody traded A tier prospect.
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Brzustewicz is a much better prospect than anyone involved in this deal.
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03-07-2024, 10:37 PM
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#48
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Scoring Winger
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I really don't like when the conditions are dependent on how far a team goes in the playoffs, seems kind of cowardly lol
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03-07-2024, 10:37 PM
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And I Don't Care...
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: The land of the eternally hopeful
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No getting rid of Lindholm for you Vancouver haha
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03-07-2024, 10:38 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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Hanifin deal is even better than this.
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03-07-2024, 10:38 PM
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#51
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This is not a sellers market.
Conroy traded Lindholm at a fantastic time.
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03-07-2024, 10:39 PM
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#52
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Carolina has so many prospects that they basically have to trade many of them away just to avoid overcrowding.
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03-07-2024, 10:42 PM
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#53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
There isn't a single A-tier asset going back to Pittsburgh in this trade and I'd hesitate to really call any of the prospects B-tier, even.
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Not true at all.
Koivunen is a stud prospect. Big numbers in the Finnish elite league SM ligga as a 20 year old.
Point a game.
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03-07-2024, 10:42 PM
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#54
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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Any of those media pundits gonna post something like, Carolina A+++ Pittsburgh D for this trade? 
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03-07-2024, 10:44 PM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Originally Posted by timbit
Not true at all.
Koivunen is a stud prospect. Big numbers in the Finnish elite league SM ligga as a 20 year old.
Point a game.
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I struggle with the Liiga at times. It's a good league but I don't see it as being even close to the level of the SHL, for example. Koivunen is a nice piece and I think he could be an NHLer but I'd stop short of calling him a top guy.
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03-07-2024, 10:44 PM
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#56
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Pretty rough return.
Makes me feel better about our returns.
Looks like Montreal robbed the jets based on the trades so far
Top young players and prospects have never been more valued.
Teams just don't give them up for older UFAs.
It's why I hated the Tkachuk trade.
Last edited by traptor; 03-07-2024 at 10:48 PM.
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03-07-2024, 10:49 PM
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#57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
I struggle with the Liiga at times. It's a good league but I don't see it as being even close to the level of the SHL, for example. Koivunen is a nice piece and I think he could be an NHLer but I'd stop short of calling him a top guy.
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Top 6 NHL forward.
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03-07-2024, 10:51 PM
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#58
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Its funny how the wording on the picks are trying to be massaged into it seeming more favourable for the Pens.
Its a 1st unless the Canes don't win the cup, then its Philly's 2nd
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03-07-2024, 10:52 PM
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#59
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First Line Centre
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I mean, that's a high percentage to be a second but yeah, call it a first if it makes you feel better.
Scott wheeler had the canes ranked 13, with these guys being 6,7 and 9 on his rankings. None of these were in the upper tier for him. Our equivalent would be Pelletier, Poirier and Suniev.
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03-07-2024, 10:54 PM
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#60
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Reppin' the C in BC
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I really don't like when the conditions are dependent on how far a team goes in the playoffs, seems kind of cowardly lol
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Agree with this, it seems absurd. Is it cause GMs are nudging each other to make the deal by saying stuff like "I am handing you the cup"?
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