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Old 03-05-2024, 05:06 PM   #121
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Really bugs me that the player/agent are getting as involved as they seem to be in dictating where he lands and potentially sewering our return in the process.

Get lost and let us make a trade. You can sign wherever you want in a couple months.
It's totally BS that the NHL is letting Hanifins agent tamper with any trades the Flames wanna make. The Flames are not talking to any of the teams on his No Trade List.
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Old 03-05-2024, 05:07 PM   #122
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Kucherov: 32
Hedman: 35
Point: 29
Vasilevskiy: 32

Some of those guys will be older by then, young teams are starting to get better in that division (Buffalo, Detroit, Ottawa), and they are already only 5th in their division.

Time catches up to everyone.
Hot take: I predict they all will be.
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Old 03-05-2024, 05:07 PM   #123
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I’m not saying Seravelli is wrong on this one but I just think it’s funny people believe him on this stuff and then got mad about the meddling owner stuff
Ok. Haven't heard that one.
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Old 03-05-2024, 05:08 PM   #124
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Kypreos to me has been out of the insider game for a long while. He might have information but I'd rank him lower on the believability scale than Serivalli (whom I am not a fan of).
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Old 03-05-2024, 05:09 PM   #125
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Why though? It says rumour, maybe it's true, maybe it isn't. I have no idea where Kypreos heard this but maybe he has it right.
Perhaps that's sec's way of stating that the rumor is false without completely overstepping what they're allowed to reveal?
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Old 03-05-2024, 05:09 PM   #126
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It's totally BS that the NHL is letting Hanifins agent tamper with any trades the Flames wanna make. The Flames are not talking to any of the teams on his No Trade List.
The Flames can trade him to any team not on his list but it is in their best interest to go to a team he’ll extend with. If that isn’t going to happen then he may end up somewhere random as a rental
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Yeah, an extended Hanifin is gonna get you more. Or at least in theory.
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Old 03-05-2024, 05:13 PM   #128
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Tampa really doesn’t have much to offer
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Come on, we’re talking about a player that is 15 years old right now. Likely 7-8 years until they’re making a positive impact for the Flames.

If that’s the best asset you can swing for a 26 year old top pairing defenseman I am not impressed.
What’s the immediacy? Who cares if they’re 12 or 15 or 18? It’s a future Flame prospect. They don’t need to be ready to roll tomorrow. Some of us care about setting up a prospect pipeline.

I wish GMs thought this way, I’d rip two 1st rounders 4 and 5 years in the future instead of 1 in 3 months.
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Old 03-05-2024, 05:15 PM   #130
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Put me in the camp that doesn't like the idea of a 2026 first round pick and neither Florida team has a first round pick until 2026.
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Old 03-05-2024, 05:16 PM   #131
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Sure and so did Draisaitl. Skating can always be fixed by effort right? Out of all the negatives for a prospective player I think I put skating dead last. But I’m no expert
Drai is not that bad a skater but even then most slow guys don’t make it unless they have his other world class skills.


Same as saying if Gaudreau can make it, small guys can make it. He is one in a millions
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Old 03-05-2024, 05:16 PM   #132
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I'll take an extra free bingo ball for the Gavin McKenna sweepstakes (specifically from Tampa over Florida).

Father time already catching up on that dynasty
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Sure and so did Draisaitl. Skating can always be fixed by effort right? Out of all the negatives for a prospective player I think I put skating dead last. But I’m no expert
Most people use Draisaitl as an example but his skating wasn't even that bad to begin with. Mechanics was just choppy and still is, but his speed was always pretty good. Skating can be fixed to be more efficient but you can't make a slow guy fast.
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Old 03-05-2024, 05:18 PM   #134
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It's totally BS that the NHL is letting Hanifins agent tamper with any trades the Flames wanna make. The Flames are not talking to any of the teams on his No Trade List.
This is the trend that will only continue. Athletes will continue to demand more say where the play. If they can't get NTCs, they will leverage contract length and free agency to dictate where they go. And they will use that to dictate where they get traded, by making it clear where they are willing to sign and where they are not.

The NBA is the NHL a few years down the road in terms of players really dictating where they play.

This train isn't going to slow down. Toot toot.
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the biggest issue for me with TB is that a 2026 1st, if part of the package is two years away from even happening.

Then add 3 more years to see if you have a player from it, maybe 4. This is a ~5 year investment. That isn't planning for now, this is planning for 2030. Decent chance the front office won't even see the fruits of their labor, coaching staff will have changed, perhaps twice.
We can trade it when we need to pay Montreal to take one of our players.
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Old 03-05-2024, 05:34 PM   #136
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I just don’t buy this narrative. For the past few trades (Tanev, Zadorov, Lindholm) we’ve heard almost ZERO news ahead of the trade. This feels like speculation rather than anything substantive at this point and I won’t be surprised at all of Hanifin heads somewhere else.
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Old 03-05-2024, 05:37 PM   #137
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I’d take the 1st and prospect but no thanks to pubix 25 already and his 2nd season. Need something more.
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Old 03-05-2024, 05:39 PM   #138
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Florida is probably his first choice and Tampa is there to drive up the price. I just can't see a scenario that Lundell would be involved. Would love to have a Finn on the Flames though, it's been too long.
I doubt it, as he has set up the scenario where he ends up in a Tampa.

If he truly wants Florida, he wouldn’t be signing a contact to play for Tampa.
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Old 03-05-2024, 05:40 PM   #139
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I'll take an extra free bingo ball for the Gavin McKenna sweepstakes (specifically from Tampa over Florida).

Father time already catching up on that dynasty
It will be protected at least to that extent.
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Old 03-05-2024, 05:41 PM   #140
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This thread should be closed lol
That is encouraging. This tells me (just speculation mind you) that jersey is all in on both Hanny and Marky.

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