2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

I find that hard to believe personally; Conroy has been sticking to the plan he has set - which I might add didn’t mention any players on the team with term - and I know he thinks highly of Wolf and needs to create space on the roster sooner than later. To add to that the fact that Conroy highly values young players and the draft and I can’t see him being this short-sighted.

I don’t think it’s Conroy that’s shortsighted.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

I find that hard to believe personally; Conroy has been sticking to the plan he has set - which I might add didn’t mention any players on the team with term - and I know he thinks highly of Wolf and needs to create space on the roster sooner than later. To add to that the fact that Conroy highly values young players and the draft and I can’t see him being this short-sighted.

Something was apparently mishandled. We had heard for months that the Flames weren't going to Marky without have a deal ready to roll.

They went to Marky. The deal didn't get done. Marky is upset about it.

[btimbit]

Makes me wonder if a deal was done and agreed too but then didn't get ownership approval

Pure speculation on my part, obviously

[Backstop]

Is this the meddling from the top (Murray) someone alluded to a few days back? Wouldn't let the deal go through because maybe they squeak in?

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

if the Flames did in fact keep Marky, after going to him about a trade, because they thought they could make a playoffs then I think it's fair to say that the short sightedness of the organization has not been extinguished.

They've gone on a heater and still remain 7 points out.

Combined with the fact they supposedly tried to re-sign Tanev, and before him both Hanifin and Lindholm, and it’s clear the franchise is still unwilling to sustain short term pain for long-term gain unless their hand is forced. I expect the Flames to use their cap space this summer to aggressively pursue the biggest UFAs in the market.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Combined with the fact they supposedly tried to re-sign Tanev, and before him both Hanifin and Lindholm, and it’s clear

You can see the ridiculousness of this comment, right?

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Combined with the fact they supposedly tried to re-sign Tanev, and before him both Hanifin and Lindholm, and it’s clear the franchise is still unwilling to sustain short term pain for long-term gain unless their hand is forced. I expect the Flames to use their cap space this summer to aggressively pursue the biggest UFAs in the market.

Ah, I hope Marky has or is going to outright request a trade at this point.

I also don't think the Flames are going to be an easy sell on the free agent market (not that they ever were). The team will have missed the playoffs two years in a row, and everything that wasn't bolted down has effectively thrown themselves overboard to escape the market/the management/the lack of success here or whatever their deciding factor was.

There's no good path ahead in free agency for the Flames, and I hope the market saves them from themselves.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1764654425996738747

[PepsiFree]

Do we honestly believe that the Flames would have gone to Markstrom to waive and then immediately pulled the deal because he won the game after he found out he was being traded?

We’ve heard enough from Conroy and seen enough actual evidence that we don’t need to believe talking heads that are clearly just making stuff up.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Do we honestly believe that the Flames would have gone to Markstrom to waive and then immediately pulled the deal because he won the game after he found out he was being traded?

We’ve heard enough from Conroy and seen enough actual evidence that we don’t need to believe talking heads that are clearly just making stuff up.

Friedman generally doesn't run something unless he has it confirmed. He's not into overtly speculating (and when he does, he says he's doing it)

[btimbit]

Plus it has happened before in Calgary that a done deal was scrapped at the last second because ownership said no/couldn't give approval.

If what Friedman said is true, I doubt it was Conroy's decision

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Friedman generally doesn't run something unless he has it confirmed. He's not into overtly speculating (and when he does, he says he's doing it)

Well I don’t see the quote, but it says “Elliot thinks”, which is what Friedman says when he’s speculating.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Combined with the fact they supposedly tried to re-sign Tanev, and before him both Hanifin and Lindholm, and it’s clear the franchise is still unwilling to sustain short term pain for long-term gain unless their hand is forced. I expect the Flames to use their cap space this summer to aggressively pursue the biggest UFAs in the market.

They may be able to sign some 2nd tier UFA's but I don't see the top UFA's considering Calgary (small market and not a contender) unless it's a massive overpayment and I don't see Conroy getting all stupid in free agency.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Well I don’t see the quote, but it says “Elliot thinks”, which is what Friedman says when he’s speculating.

Just listening to it now myself:

One thing I do know, is the Flames were very unhappy with the timing of the Markstrom thing and the comments.

Goes on to say another owner he spoke to also didn't like the timing because of how important the weekend was to the team.

Markstrom, his issue - on one hand he's upset because it's not the same team he signed with, on the other hand he's more upset because he feels he never should have been told he could be traded to New Jersey.

Says he didn't want to know about it unless it was happening. Speaks specifically to family obligations. Someone he spoke to said they didn't trade Markstrom because of how well he was playing, and how the team was playing and that they said "we could make the playoffs, and we're not doing this".

Whatever the case, Markstrom is upset about it.

Now that the event with Kipper is over, they have to sit down and think about this.

Goes on to talk about the fact that yes the Flames tried to keep Tanev recently. Hanifin is focused on getting a deal with teams he wants to play with, #1 is Tampa.

(updating...)

[Toonage]

This is going to be a wild week isn't it? I could see the team being unhappy with the whole retention thing and then pulling the offer because Markstrom was playing well on top of that but now with retention not an issue I don't see why they'd keep him. They've already traded off so many other pieces with Hanifin still to come.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Plus it has happened before in Calgary that a done deal was scrapped at the last second because ownership said no/couldn't give approval.

If what Friedman said is true, I doubt it was Conroy's decision

Nobody loves that sweet first round playoff revenue more than Murray Edwards.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I also don't think the Flames are going to be an easy sell on the free agent market (not that they ever were). The team will have missed the playoffs two years in a row, and everything that wasn't bolted down has effectively thrown themselves overboard to escape the market/the management/the lack of success here or whatever their deciding factor was.

Throw enough money and term at a Chandler Stephenson or Brett Pesce and
I doubt that would be a problem. Stephenson in particular - he already has a Cup and this is his chance for a big payday.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Just listening to it now myself:



Goes on to say another owner he spoke to also didn't like the timing because of how important the weekend was to the team.

(updating...)

He put in his column “possibility”. And I don’t think he ever committed himself on this one.

Friedman reaches more and more these days on the speculation, and commits far less.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Friedman generally doesn't run something unless he has it confirmed. He's not into overtly speculating (and when he does, he says he's doing it)

“possibility” “what he believed happened”

That doesn’t seem overly confirmed to me, that seems like speculation.

Friedman also throws a lot at the wall and his source on a point doesn’t always come from inside the room. Pretty easy for someone like Fitz to put out to the media that Calgary pulled the deal in order to save face himself.

People who are obsessed with owner meddling and the Flames “not rebuilding” despite trading Lindholm, Zadorov, Toffoli, Tanev, etc. want to believe this, sure, but it doesn’t track.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Throw enough money and term at a Chandler Stephenson or Brett Pesce and
I doubt that would be a problem. Stephenson in particular - he already has a Cup and this is his chance for a big payday.

Family around western Canada too

[daveinspruce]

Looks to me this team might still be a mess.
Looks like Murray shut down the trade to NJ because he’s delusional about this team and making the playoffs. This clown is a hinderance to our success.
Other point why in the hell are we allowing Hanifin to dictate where the hell he want to go? Him and his agent are handcuffing this team. Connie he should go to who ever decides to give us the best package…
I had high hopes after the trades that have been done but these last two I’m questioning the legitimacy of this management team!