03-02-2024, 03:03 PM
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#61
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by Niemo
I do wonder if Ekblad is part of a package coming back. He’s underperformed his contract by a margin.
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Full NMC to go from tax free, top of the league Florida to cold, retooling Calgary doesn’t seem realistic unless he truly misses Huberdeau and Weegar that much
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03-02-2024, 03:04 PM
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#62
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
As much as I don’t agree with Frank Serivali when he has talked about the Flames players trade value he has been bang on recently specifically with Lindholm and Tanev (he also said Monahan would get a 1st).
He has stated the Hanifin market has been lukewarm and the return will be somewhere between what Lindholm got vs what Tanev got. That likely is a pick, roster player, prospect. I don’t know if they can land a 22 year old center who has better than 0.5ppg in almost 200 games
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Huh we got a great deal for Lindholm.
Tanev return was good as well.
How has he been bang on?
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03-02-2024, 03:04 PM
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#63
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by D as in David
If all the Flames got out of trading Markstrom and Hanifin were Mercer and Lundell, it would solve a problem up the middle while seeming somewhat underwhelming return. It would also mean that not much else was on the table from other teams, at least, in Conroy's eyes. Still, having strength up the middle like that could be considered a reasonably big win.
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I think those would be amazing returns the flames add highly promising young cost controlled assets that impact the team immediately for 2 older vets, one of which is walking in the summer and the other was untraceable a year ago
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03-02-2024, 03:05 PM
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#64
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Huh we got a great deal for Lindholm.
Tanev return was good as well.
How has he been bang on?
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He said Lindholm was going to net the flames a huge package that would be bigger than any other pending UFA from Calgary and he said Tanev was not getting a first round pick back
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03-02-2024, 03:07 PM
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#65
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by D as in David
If all the Flames got out of trading Markstrom and Hanifin were Mercer and Lundell, it would solve a problem up the middle while seeming somewhat underwhelming return. It would also mean that not much else was on the table from other teams, at least, in Conroy's eyes. Still, having strength up the middle like that could be considered a reasonably big win.
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I would do those deals all day long.
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03-02-2024, 03:07 PM
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#66
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
He said Lindholm was going to net the flames a huge package that would be bigger than any other pending UFA from Calgary and he said Tanev was not getting a first round pick back
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We had a 1st on the table for Tanev.
We elected for a 2nd and a 2nd round drafted prospect.
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03-02-2024, 03:10 PM
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#67
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
We had a 1st on the table for Tanev.
We elected for a 2nd and a 2nd round drafted prospect.
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The 1st was also taking a cap dump back that had term and almost was certainly the Oilers 1st + Ceci who is a fringe Dman making north of $3M
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03-02-2024, 03:11 PM
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#68
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
I think those would be amazing returns the flames add highly promising young cost controlled assets that impact the team immediately for 2 older vets, one of which is walking in the summer and the other was untraceable a year ago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
I would do those deals all day long.
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Big picture, it does seem to put the Flames in a much better position. When looking at each potential trade in isolation, they look less appealing.
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03-02-2024, 03:11 PM
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#69
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
We had a 1st on the table for Tanev.
We elected for a 2nd and a 2nd round drafted prospect.
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We had a first with a $3.25 million cap dump.
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03-02-2024, 03:12 PM
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#70
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
The 8th year has value. What that value is TBD.
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Negative value for the team. Age 35 season.
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03-02-2024, 03:14 PM
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#71
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by kyuss275
We had a first with a $3.25 million cap dump.
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Ceci’s deal isn’t horrible. He is a 2MM dman making 3.25MM for 1 more year. We could’ve easily fit him and dealt him at next yrs deadline for a 4th at least. Unless Conroy was really that high on Grushnikov or simply didn’t want to deal with the Oilers without an overpay, then this was a miss.
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03-02-2024, 03:15 PM
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#72
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I cannot think of a single instance where Weekes has been correct.
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03-02-2024, 03:19 PM
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#73
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Niemo
Ceci’s deal isn’t horrible. He is a 2MM dman making 3.25MM for 1 more year. We could’ve easily fit him and dealt him at next yrs deadline for a 4th at least. Unless Conroy was really that high on Grushnikov or simply didn’t want to deal with the Oilers without an overpay, then this was a miss.
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Not sure I agree. If Ceci is easily tradable for a 4th at least, why don't the Oilers just do that and then trade their 1st for a better Dman?
The way the Dallas / Edmonton offers played out, it certainly appears that Ceci has negative value.
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03-02-2024, 03:22 PM
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#74
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zulu29
Is Lundell THAT good straight up for Hanifin?
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Would you trade a young Backlund for Hanifin? IMO that's Lundell's upside
My answer is no, this team needs a more skilled center
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03-02-2024, 03:26 PM
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#76
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Would you trade a young Backlund for Hanifin? IMO that's Lundell's upside
My answer is no, this team needs a more skilled center
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OK but you aren't going to get a better centre than Lundell for Hanifin.
Acquiring the next Backlund would be a nice bit of business.
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03-02-2024, 03:27 PM
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#78
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
Was he best buds with Chucky?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
I cannot think of a single instance where Weekes has been correct.
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He's broken a bunch of news.
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03-02-2024, 03:27 PM
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#79
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Would you trade a young Backlund for Hanifin? IMO that's Lundell's upside
My answer is no, this team needs a more skilled center
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I would love to get a young Backlund for 21 games of Hanifin. Someone has to take over for the real Backlund eventually.
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03-02-2024, 03:27 PM
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#80
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Would you trade a young Backlund for Hanifin? IMO that's Lundell's upside
My answer is no, this team needs a more skilled center
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Lundell was on pace as a rookie to hit 55 points. He was also +33 that year.
Backlunds best offensive season in 15 years was 56 points.
I think you're selling Lundell's ceiling short.
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