2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by Niemo

Can someone briefly explain to me how Hanifin and his agent are significantly hurting our return by telling some teams he won't resign with them? I figured that any team offering up significant assets would want an extension in place prior anyway? So the 5 team list of his preferred destinations would still have to send a strong offer to outbid each other no?

Just a bit confused.

Exactly
I dont understand the uproar
its nothing new

[Pickle Juice]

If the rumors are true about Noah and his agent then you would think that limits the Flames in their trade partners and the return. I would think with that being said the trade would be happening real soon since the options would be very limited. Why drag this out to the deadline if you have 2 or 3 teams competing for the same guy. Put your best trade forward and move on! Seriously disappointing if this is actually what is going on.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

If the Flames are not retaining on Markstrom this year, and Hanifin doesn't need retention we should be offering 2 retention spots to Vegas to help them facilitate trades.

I think we'll retain on Hanifin. Knocking his cap hit to just below $2.5M will be helpful. We should help Vegas, LA or Colorado for sure though with the last retention spot.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

I think we'll retain on Hanifin. Knocking his cap hit to just below $2.5M will be helpful. We should help Vegas, LA or Colorado for sure though with the last retention spot.

LA looks like they are dead lol.

Agreed with Colorado.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

LA looks like they are dead lol.

Agreed with Colorado.

What do you mean LA looks dead?

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by Pickle Juice

If the rumors are true about Noah and his agent then you would think that limits the Flames in their trade partners and the return. I would think with that being said the trade would be happening real soon since the options would be very limited. Why drag this out to the deadline if you have 2 or 3 teams competing for the same guy. Put your best trade forward and move on! Seriously disappointing if this is actually what is going on.

There's always been a "Hanifin extended" value and a "Hanifin rental" value and we've had a pretty good idea of where he would sign an extension for quite a while now.
The plan has to be to try to start a bidding war with the teams he would extend with. I believe that was what bringing the agent into the process was all about. If that doesn't materialize, make the best deal with a team who will take him as a rental.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

What do you mean LA looks dead?

I know it was a back to back, but that team looks like it has zero passion. Maybe its PLD rubbing off on his teammates.

[sureLoss]

Friedman speculating that the Flames may add a d-man for a relatively inexpensive price.

Marek suggested Erik Johnson from the Sabres.

[Monahammer]

But why...

[Ashasx]

I will take Erik Johnson if the price is negative.

[Toonage]

If you're the Flames, why not take on a somewhat expensive D-man to create space for someone else and a pick while you're at it? Win/win if you need or want D

Nashville buying for the playoffs but wants to get rid of Barrie? Take his salary on for a 3rd or 4th

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Toonage

If you're the Flames, why not take on a somewhat expensive D-man to create space for someone else and a pick while you're at it? Win/win if you need or want D

Yup.

I could see them being a broker to take on a player like Derek Forbort if it opened up room for Boston to make a different trade or Joel Edmundson from Washington. Maybe even Brodie from Toronto.

Where you might even get a mid round pick back for helping.

[Toonage]

If the Flames spend an asset for a defenseman I'll be....confused.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Toonage

If you're the Flames, why not take on a somewhat expensive D-man to create space for someone else and a pick while you're at it? Win/win if you need or want D

Nashville buying for the playoffs but wants to get rid of Barrie? Take his salary on for a 3rd or 4th

Sure. But the Sabres aren’t buyers and they don’t have any problems with cap space.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Sure. But the Sabres aren’t buyers and they don’t have any problems with cap space.

Then don't give them an asset for their players. Flames need to be smart about this. They have depth D or kids that can get the minutes. This whole staying competitive thing is fine, but not at the expense of common sense.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Toonage

If the Flames spend an asset for a defenseman I'll be....confused.

Can't take out two guys that eat huge minutes for you every night and simply bump every one up the depth chart.

They'll need to bring in an NHL d-man to help soften the blow of losing those guys.

Not sure if that's the one they should target.

[ClubFlames]

I'll accept Erik Johnson only if he comes with a 1st (unconditional) and a prospect for Hanifin.

[Monahammer]

Staying competitive is dumb in this case. We're going to be out, it's only 25 games, suck as much as possible and get the highest draft pick you can. Then come back with a winning environment next season.

I posted about this yesterday, but to me this same group is the group that dogged it and performed like crap at the beginning of the season when it mattered. Rewarding them for finally coming through when there's no pressure to do so is silly. I understand sending a message but these guys are adults. They know the standings situation. They understand how the league works. They can suck it up for the last 25 games when really they threw out their own chances of success in the first 25. If they want to be rewarded bring this same intensity out of the gates next year.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

What do you mean LA looks dead?

The Flames have a better record in 2024 IIRC.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Erik Johnson had 0 goals 8 assists last year. This year he has 3 goals and 0 assists. Strange player.