[Trade] Flames trade Tanev (double retention) to Dallas for 2nd, cond. 3rd, Grushnikov

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Bingo

By all reports the Flames are really high on Grushnikov.

They pushed for him to be included, and may have moved off the 1st price to get him in a deal with a second.

I'm all about convicted scouting staffs.

Now lets see where it goes.

But people upset at a 2nd, a recent 2nd and a conditional when the goal posts were 2nd and 1st are really over reacting.

Pretty sure a 2nd and some pocket lint would be between the goal posts. Grushnikov likely worth more than pocket lint.

It’s obvious they really want Grushnikov to make this trade now instead of waiting for more bidding. He is a wanted commodity, not something Dallas doesn’t want anymore

[SutterBrother]

The brightest timeline is that he wins a cup with Dallas (no foot in the crease this time), then returns here in the summer and is paired with Grush (Girth) who he turns into the next Tanev.

I want the Flames to win... but absent that... lets see Tanev hoist it over those broken chompers.

[ah123]

Not sure if it was posted already, Jim Nill has high praise for Grushnikov

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg5ssxYCYVs

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

I don’t think there’s any pro-Oiler anti-Flame conspiracy going on here, the trade just isn’t very good for the Flames. Given the amount of retention and the quality of the player, the Stars paid very little here.

Maybe this Russian kid turns out to be the next Tanev or Regehr, but the people who have watched him and do this for a living seem to think he more likely tops out as Adam Pardy or Matt Pelech. So I’m not going to get my hopes up on that.

You mean guys like Conroy and his scouting staff?


Declaring this as a win or a loss or anything in between 2 days after the deal is fools gold.

It may work out well and it may be a complete whiff, but we wont know for years.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

It’s obvious they really want Grushnikov to make this trade now instead of waiting for more bidding. He is a wanted commodity, not something Dallas doesn’t want anymore

There was 5 weeks of potential bidding.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

LeBrun on insider trading said one team did offer a 1st round pick for Tanev but it also came with a player with term left on their contract coming back to the Flames which did not interest Calgary.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1763606650517094470

Sounds like Ceci and a 1st was indeed Edmonton's offer.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

https://twitter.com/user/status/1763606650517094470

Sounds like Ceci and a 1st was indeed Edmonton's offer.

Ohhh.....that would have been...gambling...

[Heavy Jack]

Holloway + 1st, would have been annoyed to see us helping the Coilers especially with a piece like Tanev, but would have come around to the two young pieces part… but Ceci + 1st… wow that would have been an interesting thread lol.

[bluejays]

Is Ceci any good? I remember his Ottawa days were mediocre. The Edmonton 1st is attractive. Wouldn’t mind dealing Hanifin there for that plus. Edmonton has the top end but not much. Can’t see them going deep.

[Heavy Jack]

Would definitely be a rental and Edmonton is likely on his NTC list.

[getbak]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1763604025411608966

[Coach]

No way Hanifin waives for Nogoodington.

[Shazam]

1st + Pissy for Hanifin.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by getbak

https://twitter.com/user/status/1763604025411608966

Who is welcoming him in the video? Seems to already know him.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

LeBrun on insider trading said one team did offer a 1st round pick for Tanev but it also came with a player with term left on their contract coming back to the Flames which did not interest Calgary.

Ceci and EDM 1st is my guess. Hence why we said no

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by D as in David

Who is welcoming him in the video? Seems to already know him.

Looks like Mark Duarte from the Wranglers who he played with in junior in Hamilton I believe

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by D as in David

Who is welcoming him in the video? Seems to already know him.

It looks like Jonathan Aspirot to me but not 100 percent sure

[Heavy Jack]

Definitely who Matty said in looking at his HDB pic.

[Dan403]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

I don’t think there’s any pro-Oiler anti-Flame conspiracy going on here, the trade just isn’t very good for the Flames. Given the amount of retention and the quality of the player, the Stars paid very little here.

Maybe this Russian kid turns out to be the next Tanev or Regehr, but the people who have watched him and do this for a living seem to think he more likely tops out as Adam Pardy or Matt Pelech. So I’m not going to get my hopes up on that.

Do you mean people like the Flames Scouting Staff?

Or the Flames Front Office?

Who are these people who "do this for a living" that you're talking about?

[Sylvanfan]

I read Ceci and Oilers 1st as a speculated offer. Holland trying to shed a contract with term. Also saw speculation with Colorado 1st plus Johansen too. Seems like the Flames may be putting a premium on taking on money for next year. So they likely got a bit extra from Vancouver for eating Kuzmenko.