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Old 02-28-2024, 08:42 AM   #101
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Completely arbitrary starting point - but after 25 games (early December):
LA 16-5-4 36 points
Calgary 10-12-2 22 points

Since then:
Calgary 19-13-3 41 points
LA 13-14-6 32 points


Kings actually peaked at 16-4-3 so they've been an under 500 team for a while now.
Coincidentally, I just looked at the standings since the 2-7-1 start. Since then (Nov 3rd):

CGY: 27-18-4, 58 pts (3rd in Pacific)
LAK: 23-17-8, 54 pts (4th in Pacific)
VGS: 23-19-6, 52 pts (5th)

For the last 4 months, the Flames have been a better team than both LA and Vegas. Unfortunately, that first month was a disaster. And that just shows how much a bad start can hurt a season.
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Old 02-28-2024, 09:01 AM   #102
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And the scheduling is kind of weird.

Almost 60 games into the season and 2 teams in the same division haven't met yet (Van and L.A) . As they will play 4 games in the next 20 some games.

For the Flames, I think LA is the target as they still play them twice plus here are some of L.A. tougher opponents:

as mentionned Van (4)
Stars (2)
Wild(2)
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No Goods


But they do play CHI(3), Ducks (2) and Sharks.


Bottom line: Flames need to win the next 2 vs LA.
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Old 02-28-2024, 09:04 AM   #103
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Flames are 5 back of LA now though...and play them twice
And a game in hand on Nashville! But I agree, most logical would be to try and reel in the Kings.
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Old 02-28-2024, 09:22 AM   #104
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If the last two games are Huska hockey I will shut my mouth and eat a huge serving of crow.

Huberdeau is starting to make the little passes where he seems to dish the puck off in the middle of stick handling so you don't know where ts going to go. Really deceptive and effective.

Hunt matches up on the Huberdeau line really well, and I don't hate Sharangovich at centre, especially since he is just starting to play there at the NHL level.

Hard not to cheer for this team the way they are playing with everyone chipping in.

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If the last two games are Huska hockey I will shut my mouth and eat a huge serving of crow.

Huberdeau is starting to make the little passes where he seems to dish the puck off in the middle of stick handling so you don't know where ts going to go. Really deceptive and effective.

Hunt matches up on the Huberdeau line really well, and I don't hate Sharangovich at centre, especially since he is just starting to play there at the NHL level.

Hard not to cheer for this team the way they are playing with everyone chipping in.
Those were quite incredible. It's almost like he loses the handle while carrying, but in reality it goes to an open teammate. His arsenal of passes is pretty big. He can make the long ones and the short deceptive ones. He's backed on on only doing super hard ones that his teammates often bobbled.
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Old 02-28-2024, 09:52 AM   #106
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It’s a bit of a shame that the team is probably going to be hamstrung over the next week or so. They are really rounding into form. But Nashville seems to be seperating from the pack which is a problem.

But in Conroy’s defence. The flip side to how well they are playing is how terrible they were at the start of the season and how many times they didn’t show up against teams they should have easily beat.

Guess we’ll see what ultimately happens. But this year will be a shame if they miss the playoffs again and get gutted. Looks like it might be a turning point though too. Maybe the silver lining.
That could be partly attributed to the fact that there are some players that just wasn't giving an effort and holding the team back. I'm talking about the ones we've traded or are no longer here.. Lindholm's lack of effort, Dube, Adam. When you got one or several guys not giving an effort it affects the whole line/s Walker was another one but I think sending him down for a stint might have woken him up. I think the big difference between the beginning of the season and now is the fact that we don't have those guys on the team; And we've strengthened our defense.

The Flames have had a history of having too many players that were passengers or played when they felt like it.
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Old 02-28-2024, 09:57 AM   #107
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If we could just fix our powerplay, we'd be be a top 10 team.

(...and also figure out how to beat the 5 worst teams in the league.)
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Did Talbot ever find his underwear after that Mangiapane goal ??
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Old 02-28-2024, 10:57 AM   #109
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He's backed off on only doing super hard ones that his teammates often bobbled.
It's a shame he doesn't have a one-time machine on the opposite wing on the power play.

He often zips insanely hard cross ice passes through everyone that have the goalie still moving, but we don't have anyone with an elite one-timer to convert them.
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Old 02-28-2024, 11:23 AM   #110
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I think the upper limit for Lindholm this summer might be the Kadri contract.

Unless he has a huge post-season he'll be 2+ years removed from being the Selke runner up with that quality of play to back it up.

That won't deter teams from extending offers, but they won't be anywhere near the sort of contract he expected from the Flames.
He’s pulled a Klingberg- turned down a fat contract that flattered him, bet on himself, then face-planted (albeit less dramatically than Klingberg).
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He’s pulled a Klingberg- turned down a fat contract that flattered him, bet on himself, then face-planted (albeit less dramatically than Klingberg).
Columbus might overpay for him given he has established chemistry with Gaudreau, plus they need a centre like him. Lindy seems like the type that would enjoy being in a non-hockey market.
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That one never made sense to me because he seemed like a Sutter guy.

Rooney had a pretty good training camp (surprised a lot of us in camp I remember).

Was good the first handful of games of the season.

But was scapegoated for a goal against in the game against the Oilers (the goal where McDavid beat everyone down the ice and Markstrom let in a soft goal on a shot from the wall that was a game winner), and then never got out of Sutter's dog house after that.
In fairness to Sutter though he had that crazy sequence (either his last game or close to it), where he was all along in front of the net with Lucic ready to center it only to assume he was in his own zone and cycle into the breakout formation.

Have never seen that ... before or since. It was like coaching timbits.
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Coincidentally, I just looked at the standings since the 2-7-1 start. Since then (Nov 3rd):

CGY: 27-18-4, 58 pts (3rd in Pacific)
LAK: 23-17-8, 54 pts (4th in Pacific)
VGS: 23-19-6, 52 pts (5th)

For the last 4 months, the Flames have been a better team than both LA and Vegas. Unfortunately, that first month was a disaster. And that just shows how much a bad start can hurt a season.
I blame the RA suspension!


otoh while everything being said is true- this team has been actively selling (already) throughout. even if , in retrospect, Zadorov and Lindholm are being argued as addition by subtraction- this team is not being managed (and that's appropriate- to be clear) as a team trying to make the playoffs but those pesky players...I like it
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Old 02-28-2024, 12:50 PM   #115
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"3 SOG and one of them was Lewis"

His was their best chance all period.
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Kings fans are pretty good at this ATL Report thing. Who knew?
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If LA has any guts, they'll buy Dubois' contract out this summer. Given his age, they would only have to pay 1/3 of the salary out. I seriously think that is the best option for them.
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PL Dubois is a massive bust.
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PL Dubois is a massive bust.
He seems like a spoiled brat. I think Torts had him figured out.
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PL Dubois is a massive bust.
Outside of Matthews and Tkachuk the top of that draft underachieved big time. A redraft is probably Matthews, Tkachuk, Fox, Thompson, Keller, McAvoy, Debrincat, Chychrun, Keller, Bratt, Kyrou, all before you get to Laine (and don't even talk about Puljujarvi and Juolevi).
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