2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Salt Water Cowboy #10]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Treliving is literally a big baby, I’m so glad he’s gone. It’s the damned least you could do Tre after the Monahan fiasco, the thought of helping his leafs out after he’s been such a dink about acquiring our D all year makes me hope Tanev ends up somewhere else.

I doubt he can land Tanev. But yes he’s a dick for how he left the Flames. One thing I think about is, maybe there is a deal with Montreal for something. I mean they owe the Flames “future considerations” for the Monahan deal. Those future considerations may be handy when we deal Huberdeau to the Habs

[OILFAN #81]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

1st + Holloway would still be a win on Tanev. Would you, Oil fan?

I’d do a 1st straight up. Not ready to give up on Holloway yet for a rental. Calgary might get more than a 1st for Tanev but that’s what I would be comfortable sending.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

I’d do a 1st straight up. Not ready to give up on Holloway yet for a rental. Calgary might get more than a 1st for Tanev but that’s what I would be comfortable sending.

I struggle to see Tanev’s value stretching to include a 1st + Holloway.

If we’re to look at Ben Chiarot as the market defining trade on this front, that was a 1st + 4th.

We can argue Tanev > Chiarot, but at the same time in recent years Chiarot is probably the best comparable - that then poses the question of what is Holloway worth? If we were to look back at Curtis Lazar as a comparable then that’s a 2nd round pick, is that a fair comparison?

1st + Holloway = 1st + 2nd in my eyes, and I don’t think Tanev holds that sort of value - even with an in-province premium attached.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I struggle to see Tanev’s value stretching to include a 1st + Holloway.

If we’re to look at Ben Chiarot as the market defining trade on this front, that was a 1st + 4th.

We can argue Tanev > Chiarot, but at the same time in recent years Chiarot is probably the best comparable - that then poses the question of what is Holloway worth? If we were to look back at Curtis Lazar as a comparable then that’s a 2nd round pick, is that a fair comparison?

1st + Holloway = 1st + 2nd in my eyes, and I don’t think Tanev holds that sort of value - even with an in-province premium attached.

It’s trading the top target of virtually every trade board to your most hated rival. The premium for that needs to be even more than Holloway IMO. I would be disappointed if Conroy made that trade. Would rather give Tanev to another team for a 2nd round pick + B-level prospect.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by stemit14

It’s trading the top target of virtually every trade board to your most hated rival. The premium for that needs to be even more than Holloway IMO. I would be disappointed if Conroy made that trade. Would rather give Tanev to another team for a 2nd round pick + B-level prospect.

This strikes me as just nothing more than fan sentiment.

I doubt Conroy is acting emotionally when making significant, future-defining moves with his roster/assets.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I struggle to see Tanev’s value stretching to include a 1st + Holloway.

If we’re to look at Ben Chiarot as the market defining trade on this front, that was a 1st + 4th.

We can argue Tanev > Chiarot, but at the same time in recent years Chiarot is probably the best comparable - that then poses the question of what is Holloway worth? If we were to look back at Curtis Lazar as a comparable then that’s a 2nd round pick, is that a fair comparison?

1st + Holloway = 1st + 2nd in my eyes, and I don’t think Tanev holds that sort of value - even with an in-province premium attached.

Originally Posted by ComixZone

This strikes me as just nothing more than fan sentiment.

I doubt Conroy is acting emotionally when making significant, future-defining moves with his roster/assets.

He hates the oilers too. And his job is very much affected by fan sentiment. If he traded Tanev to the oilers and it got them a cup… he would likely never be forgiven for it by lots of fans.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Tanev fits almost every team that needs a stabilizing presence on one of the top 2 pairs. I also think that a good fit for Tanev is a team that is struggling on the PK. Ranking teams based on PK%, these are the teams that could - at least based on stats alone - really use Tanev:


24 - Toronto - 77.1%
23 - Winnipeg - 77.2%
19 - Vancouver - 79%
18 - New Jersey - 79.1% (probably a combo of goalie and injuries to defence)


Calgtary is 5th at 82.8%.


Some of these teams might have already fixed their PK, but maybe some other teams are having problems and just haven't made it to the bottom yet. Point is, Tanev is one of the league's best Pk'ers/shot-blockers, and if a team is struggling in that department, that's another hole in your organization that you can patch up before playoffs start. Whatever team has a weak top 4 pairing while also having PK issues? Tanev is the best fit you can find, period.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

On 3 Heavy Jack….

1, 2, 3…..lets go Oilers! (OILERS SUCK!)

I’d love Tanev on the Oilers but I’m sure Conroy would ask for a premium from us which is probably a no go.

Added the proper retort for you.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I think Conroy also want to do Tanev a solid and send him to a contender, so that takes the Oilers, Canucks and Leafs out of the equation.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

While I'm sure the essence of what you're saying is correct, I also am willing to believe that he has a price that would entice him to stay.

Ted DiBiase knew what he was talking about.

I am not sure I am buying that. I mean you can make a pisspot full of money and go where you want or you can make a slightly bigger pisspot full of money and be away from where you want to be. I think I would choose the former. We are talking about millions of dollars here, not a normal promotion of your typical working man who doesn't want to stay at his job but doesn't have a choice because that extra $10,000 a year means a lot.

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I think Conroy also want to do Tanev and send him to a contender, so that takes the Oilers, Canucks and Leafs out of the equation.

There is no room for this kind of talk on this board

[BEANZ]

If a deal is getting done pre deadline day I think it has to happen in the next 48 hours. Conroy is not going to steal Kippers glory so likely won’t make a deal Friday or Saturday.

Should be interesting.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

1 1st round pick won’t remedy those fears; he’s really got no choice but to push all in with his chips he just doesn’t like it and is being greedy all at once. Might come to burn him yet again where he’s not willing to spend up or just doesn’t have the ability to.

You have to stop the bleeding though at some point.

Maybe it's not that you have to keep the pick at all, but also not sure I'd spend the 1st on a 34 year old rental.

Where if I'm Dallas I'd be willing to move the 1st for Tanev as a rental, have enough depth and picks built up from strong asset managemetn to not worry about using that 1st as a rental.

[Incogneto]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Draisatl strikes me as someone who wants to go to New York or a California team.

Isn't Kopitar up in LA as well?

I thought it was an open secret that the Blackhawks are targeting Draisaitl as a free agent....?

I have heard this from multiple people around the league.

[saillias]

I wonder what happened to Colorado in all this. A month or 2 back Chris Johnston suggested Bowen Byram for Hanifin. Avs fans are souring on him, been trending down since his great rookie year and SCF, and some think he needs a change of scenery. That is a far more enticing reclamation project than Tampa's 2026 first rounder (so you might have a player by 2029/2030) and their hollowed out prospect pool.

[HitterD]

Originally Posted by BEANZ

If a deal is getting done pre deadline day I think it has to happen in the next 48 hours. Conroy is not going to steal Kippers glory so likely won’t make a deal Friday or Saturday.

Should be interesting.

Sure but Trade Deadline is not until March 8th. Still gives the flames 5 more full days after Kipper's night to work on deals ahead of the deadline.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Incogneto

I thought it was an open secret that the Blackhawks are targeting Draisaitl as a free agent....?

I have heard this from multiple people around the league.

Might not be the best spot for him. Chicago is windy and he's pissy.

[bluejays]

Some of you are a bit paranoid of outside characters. Hate to say it. Just watched the full discussion from Kypreos, and it was about as balanced as a discussion as could be. They opened by talking about how he’s the number one d man out there then there’s everyone else. Their hypothetical was also pretty balanced with an open discussion that even that package wouldn’t be good enough for the Flames. They have nothing against the Flames. Crazy takes.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by saillias

I wonder what happened to Colorado in all this. A month or 2 back Chris Johnston suggested Bowen Byram for Hanifin. Avs fans are souring on him, been trending down since his great rookie year and SCF, and some think he needs a change of scenery. That is a far more enticing reclamation project than Tampa's 2026 first rounder (so you might have a player by 2029/2030) and their hollowed out prospect pool.

It does seem weird that they have been so quiet in rumors.

If there was a team that could make a surprise trade for one of our forwards I could see it being them.

If there was a team that I think would value Andrew Mangiapane and could be open to moving for him it would be them.

They have Miles Wood, Drouin, and Macdermid as their 2nd - 4th line LWs right now and none of that seems ideal (Landeskog and Nichuskin both out).

Mangiapane feels like a very similar acquisition to Lehkonen and feel like the Avalanche could like that for sure. They really could use some help on the wing right now too.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Some of you are a bit paranoid of outside characters. Hate to say it. Just watched the full discussion from Kypreos, and it was about as balanced as a discussion as could be. They opened by talking about how he’s the number one d man out there then there’s everyone else. Their hypothetical was also pretty balanced with an open discussion that even that package wouldn’t be good enough for the Flames. They have nothing against the Flames. Crazy takes.

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