2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Paulie Walnuts]

Getting elite offensive talent is hard. You need that in order to win in this league.

If Holtz can fill the net that’s exactly what we need. You can draft depth 2nd and 3rd line players in the draft as well. If the Devils won’t include Mercer I’d pull the trigger on a 1st and Holtz and the prospect for retention.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Mercer is playing with Hughes and Toffoli.

Mercer has been playing with Lazar and Nosek on line 3. Sometimes he switches with Holtz and gets time on line 4.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Ekblad is pretty bad and the Sens are just as strapped. They are not giving up futures for him.

Ekblad has been one of Florida's strongest defenders this year, production notwithstanding. I think he'd make Ottawa significantly better. Might be time for a change of scenery for him.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Ekblad is pretty bad and the Sens are just as strapped. They are not giving up futures for him.

That's not what I've read today. There's charts and graphs ppl saying Ekblad and Forsling make up one of the best D pairings in the league.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Getting elite offensive talent is hard. You need that in order to win in this league.

If Holtz can fill the net that’s exactly what we need. You can draft depth 2nd and 3rd line players in the draft as well. If the Devils won’t include Mercer I’d pull the trigger on a 1st and Holtz and the prospect for retention.

You might but Conroy won't. Remember, this is a guy the Flames are not shopping right now. They are perfectly fine with keeping him and then re-evaluating in the off season. I stick by what I said, it will take an overpayment for Markstrom to move.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I think it's important to remember that there is still time before the trade deadline. Teams are not going to put in their best offers yet, they are trying to get the best deal for themselves too. Patience is key here, better offers will come.

Not much longer now though!

This will be an exciting *checks calendar* 11 days!

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You might but Conroy won't. Remember, this is a guy the Flames are not shopping right now. They are perfectly fine with keeping him and then re-evaluating in the off season. I stick by what I said, it will take an overpayment for Markstrom to move.

Time will prove out on this one. I think being proactive and dealing him now is the best use of the asset, and fits with the “trust the youth” movement Connie is bringing along.

Time will tell!

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You might but Conroy won't. Remember, this is a guy the Flames are not shopping right now. They are perfectly fine with keeping him and then re-evaluating in the off season. I stick by what I said, it will take an overpayment for Markstrom to move.

Had you told me Holtz + 1st + Casey (potentially) was available two months ago I would have said that's a huge overpayment

To me there is a lot of risk is waiting until the offseason and hoping to get a better offer. I think his peak value is right now (unless you think Buffalo or another team outside the playoff picture will overpay in the offseason). Plus he has to agree to moving to whoever has the best offer too, and he seems willing to move to New Jersey.

Really feels like Conroy might just be too fixated on a player that New Jersey isn't likely to move. It's okay to really push for a specific asset, but sometimes you also have to be flexible to garner maximum return too.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You might but Conroy won't. Remember, this is a guy the Flames are not shopping right now. They are perfectly fine with keeping him and then re-evaluating in the off season. I stick by what I said, it will take an overpayment for Markstrom to move.

A 1st and Holtz is an overpayment for a goalie in my mind.

The thought of Treliving sending our 1st for Bishop still haunts me.

[Incogneto]

I always wonder about sources of stories, and where the info is coming from. For instance, Frank saying that the market is soft for Hanifin is obviously NOT coming from the Flames. I’d wager it’s not coming from another team either.

So…..an agent. Would Hanifin’s agent (Pat Brisson) be leaking this info? And if so, why? Why would he be slowing/hurting his players road out of Calgary?

Or is Frank just pulling crap out of thin air to make the story juicier, to get more clicks?

I’ll go with the later.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Incogneto

I always wonder about sources of stories, and where the info is coming from. For instance, Frank saying that the market is soft for Hanifin is obviously NOT coming from the Flames. I’d wager it’s not coming from another team either.

So…..an agent. Would Hanifin’s agent (Pat Brisson) be leaking this info? And if so, why? Why would he be slowing/hurting his players road out of Calgary?

Or is Frank just pulling crap out of thin air to make the story juicier, to get more clicks?

I’ll go with the later.

It's coming from fantasy and make-believe.

[AndyM]

Originally Posted by Incogneto

Or is Frank just pulling crap out of thin air to make the story juicier, to get more clicks?

He's TMZ Frank for a reason. He comes across as a smarmy know-it-all. Almost like a car salesman. Actually, he reminds me of Herb from WKRP in Cincinnati.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

A 1st and Holtz is an overpayment for a goalie in my mind.

The thought of Treliving sending our 1st for Bishop still haunts me.

Would have beat getting Elliot

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Incogneto

I always wonder about sources of stories, and where the info is coming from. For instance, Frank saying that the market is soft for Hanifin is obviously NOT coming from the Flames. I’d wager it’s not coming from another team either.

So…..an agent. Would Hanifin’s agent (Pat Brisson) be leaking this info? And if so, why? Why would he be slowing/hurting his players road out of Calgary?

Or is Frank just pulling crap out of thin air to make the story juicier, to get more clicks?

I’ll go with the later.

Could be coming from one of the teams that is interested in him

[Paulie Walnuts]

Agents will not destroy their reputation by doing dumb things like killing a players trade value. Pat Brisson is one of the top agents in the league, I don’t he would do that.

Outside of Edmonton I don’t think management teams are leaking things and trying to pull a fast one on their colleagues.

Seems like Frank is in desperate need of clicks. Sad that Flames nation brings him on.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Ekblad is pretty bad and the Sens are just as strapped. They are not giving up futures for him.

Their 1st rounder is going to be good this year so they probably keep it, and that leaves two years for them to choose a pick to forfeit for lying about Dadonov.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Recently someone posted he was seeing 9 minutes on the 3rd/4th line. Sounds like he's bouncing around a lot.

That was the outlier.

He saw over 20 minutes on Saturday.

Averaging more than 17 minutes this season.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by AndyM

He's TMZ Frank for a reason. He comes across as a smarmy know-it-all. Almost like a car salesman. Actually, he reminds me of Herb from WKRP in Cincinnati.

Don’t you ever say anything bad about my boy Herb Tarlek again.

Damm this sure would be a good time for me to know how to post a gif.

[Braden]

I'll be mildly disappointed if we don't deal Markstrom, in my opinion it shouldn't take an absolute overpayment. He has value right now, he didn't last year and good chance if we sell our D he won't have very good numbers next year either.

[browntrout]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

A package like that likely would have to look something like this…

Mercer
Holtz
Vanecek
Casey
24 1st

For

Markstrom (50% retained)
Hanifin (extended 8 years)

Oh man start the car Conroy, if that offer is on the table

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[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by browntrout

Oh man start the car Conroy, if that offer is on the table

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100% zero chance that is the offer on the table, the deal would be done already. If you subtract Mercer it’s probably closer to reality.