[Rumour] Friedman: Hanifin headed to market; Markstrom waiting

[Toonage]

Fine, we'll take Point.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by JBR

I think it's a mistake to trade Hanifin without getting a 1st round pick, no matter the other player(s), prospect(s) involved. Tampa is without a first this year and next, so the fit isn't great unless it's a multiple team deal.

A Tampa 2026 1st with no protection could look nice...could be a top 15 pick for sure as that team ages out a bit.

[stemit14]

Even with protection, a 2026 Tampa first round pick would be a smart move. If it was top 10 protected in 2026 and they finished top ten, it would shift to being a first round pick in 2027 with no protection… which could very well end up being an even higher pick.

[dammage79]

There's nothing that TB would part with logically that makes me think Hanifin could go there. They're a cup team at the end of their window with no futures to sustain it any longer. Much like the end of the Chicago runs. Just a bunch of core that won't move.

FLA on the other hand is right in the early/middle part of their contention window with decent enough assets to part with to make a Hanifin trade work for both teams.

Ah who am I kidding, I just want Lundell for Hanifin.

[SuperMatt18]

Yup - the Flames shouldn't be afraid of future 1st round picks, that tends to be how you get an extra top 10 pick because a team makes a decline they didn't see happening.

They already have 2 in 2024, and they have three more pieces they could hypothetically get a 1st for.

If they end up with something like 3 1sts in 2024, 2 1sts in 2025, and 2 1sts in 2026 that's not a bad thing. Gives a continuous pipeline of players on ELCs in to the organization which is how you build depth and strength over time.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Sounds a lot different than Hanifin pushing to go to Tampa.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I agree with a 2026 pick being ok. I’ve been saying targeting picks in later years would be smart.

But outside that Tampa has nothing to offer.

[SeanCharles]

The thing with Tampa is what prospects do they have that are any decent?

They have wingers like Howard and Gauthier that were picked in the 30-40 range in the last two drafts but seem less like surefire prospects and don’t really fill a need (C or D).

If we take a pick 2 years down the line I’d expect to get a higher quality prospect and/or one that fills that need.

[Sandman]

Ethan Gauthier is one of Tampa’s prospects, and he’s quite good. Isaac Howard is awesome too.

Edit: Sorry, didn’t see the above post. You’re right though, they don’t fill a need.

[dammage79]

Groshev, Dylan Duke. There's some....things there but I don't know if any of them add up to Hanifin.

[Moneyhands23]

I'd absolutely take a 2026 1st rd pick if the goal is to turn the corner in 2027-2028.

A unprotected 2026 pick would be very interesting

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

The thing with Tampa is what prospects do they have that are any decent?

They have wingers like Howard and Gauthier that were picked in the 30-40 range in the last two drafts but seem less like surefire prospects and don’t really fill a need (C or D).

If we take a pick 2 years down the line I’d expect to get a higher quality prospect and/or one that fills that need.

I like jack Thompson . Think he would be a good d prospect to pick up. Unfortunately there needs to be a 1st round pick with him. Just can’t see them trading 2026 first round pick.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Locke

And I dont really want to get into all that. But if you fired up a DeLorean and dumped 20-year old Crosby into the 1984 NHL he'd probably ratchet up a 400 point season and make all NHL records look quaint.

No, no he wouldn't. That is like saying if you brought Gretzky forward in time with the technology, training, and nutrition they have now he would have been even more dominant .

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

On Insider trading, Chris Johnston says that Hanifin is most likely going to a US team because it is believed he doesn't want to sign in Canada.

Said to keep an eye on the Lightning because of Sergachev injury.

Still can't believe they gave up the entire draft for Jeannot, no wonder they are short on assets. Jesus lol.

[traptor]

For Hanifin from Lightning:

Jack Thompson + Niko Huuhtanen + 2026 1st.

Jack Thompson is a 21 year old (2020 draft) close to NHL ready two-way defender that has top four potential.
32 points in 45 games in the AHL this year, which is second on his team.

Niko Huuhtanen is a 20 year old (2021 draft) 6"2 RHS power forward with top 9 potential.
D+1 year put up 37g/77pts in 65 games in WHL.
D+3 (this year) is at 17g/43pts in 47gp in SM-liiga.

2026 1st is true wildcard. Decent chance Lightning are tumbling down in 2 years.


Not the most initially overwhelming package but I never thought we would get an A prospect in a Hanifin deal.
Some potential though.

[Canada 02]

does Tampa's rumored interest put pressure on other interested teams, say a contending team in the east? I want to believe that FS is a pawn, and Chris Johnston is castling.

[Poe969]

That's a backstage couch scene no one wants to see!

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Still can't believe they gave up the entire draft for Jeannot, no wonder they are short on assets. Jesus lol.

Funny, I just noticed TB re-acquired their ‘4th last year from Nashville for CHI’s 4th this year.

[saillias]

Put me in the camp of a 2026 first is too far removed from the present needs of the team to be serious. So you're making trades in 2024 and the GM in 2029 maybe benefits with a player?

And playing some kind of stock market prediction game about your trade partner being bad that far in the future is just pointless gambling too.

[Jiggy_12]

Originally Posted by saillias

Put me in the camp of a 2026 first is too far removed from the present needs of the team to be serious. So you're making trades in 2024 and the GM in 2029 maybe benefits with a player?

And playing some kind of stock market prediction game about your trade partner being bad that far in the future is just pointless gambling too.

It’s just an asset at this point. Currency valuable for other trades. Don’t have to wait and make the actual pick