2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by teeschaber

I think because Tampa is surely going to trend down as their players age. Their window is closing and if he wants to win a cup, it's probably not his best choice.

Or he thinks they have a few more runs in them and likes the roster better than the Panthers or Bruins. Could also be a ploy to get the Panthers to bite but I don't think signing in Tampa is crazy.

[JurassicTunga12]

Originally Posted by teeschaber

I think because Tampa is surely going to trend down as their players age. Their window is closing and if he wants to win a cup, it's probably not his best choice.

and the panthers are right next door with an extended window.
that's the destination that makes sense.

Seravalli is kinda clueless when it comes to the Flames anyway.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Toonage

I'll say this. I don't dislike Seravalli but if he and say, Friedman, were doctors I'd rather get bad news from Elliotte. Frank seems to enjoy delivering bad news.

Isn't Frank an Oilers guy? I bet he loves giving bad news to Flames fans even if his rumors are just his bias opinion.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Why not? They will have the cap space and Hedman only has a year left on his deal.

It's 100% Frank's speculation IMO

Most other insiders have stated Boston, Florida, and maybe one other team (maybe that's Tampa) as the spots that he prefers.

And I don't think they will have the cap space. They will want to re-sign Stamkos, Hedman needs to be extended the following year.

Stamkos is their only big contract expiry. Hagel already has a $5M raise that takes most of that cap space though.

The would have to trade a player to make space for Hanifin at $6M+, unless they aren't re-signing Stamkos.

[Hot_Flatus]

The Stars seem like a really good fit for Tanev or Hanifin as they are in dire need of a defensive upgrade. If Conroy can center a deal around Stankovan (who they recently called up and has been tearing up the AHL) I think it would really work out for both teams.

The Stars would likely need assurances the player would be resigning and salary retention would be needed this year, but man that would certainly change the Flames fortunes in a hurry with a talent infusion like that upfront.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Isn't Frank an Oilers guy? I bet he loves giving bad news to Flames fans even if his rumors are just his bias opinion.

Technically a Flyers guy. Though he does podcasts with Oilers media, so probably gets a fair bit of Flames bashing drilled into him.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12

and the panthers are right next door with an extended window.
that's the destination that makes sense.

Seravalli is kinda clueless when it comes to the Flames anyway.

I don't think so. He's on barn burner all the time and seems to be pretty dialed in on the Flames.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Bonded

It is a rental trade. The most likely scenario is that the Canucks don't end up with a cup and the Flames end up with some busts. You are making is sound like the Forsberg/Erat trade. No need to make it sound worse for the Canucks than it is. Same as the Rikster guy downplaying what the Canucks paid

If firsts are most likely busts we should trade them all I guess
Flames will most likely get at least one good player out of this deal

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

The would have to trade a player to make space for Hanifin at $6M+, unless they aren't re-signing Stamkos.

Could have changed but it has been floated out a couple of times that Stamkos might not be in their long term plans. We will see but if there is mutual interest between the Lightning and Hanifin it can get done.



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[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

I don't think so. He's on barn burner all the time and seems to be pretty dialed in on the Flames.

Almost every FS report on the flames especially as it relates to trades seems to error in the side of caution and usually seem to come across as glass half empty proposal. It’s hilarious to me because he does spend a ton of time on Barn Burner and Calgary focused podcasts. I do think he likes the Oilers quite a bit more than the flames and it’s easy to see why his reporting on Calgary’s trade chips read as ‘womp womp womp’ almost every time.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by dino7c

If firsts are most likely busts we should trade them all I guess
Flames will most likely get at least one good player out of this deal

The last 1st rounder that was a bust for the Flames was Mark Jankowski. Granted the jury is still out on Pelletier and Coronato, but the organization is much better off with prospects like that in the system. Having guys like Zary, on ELCs, is invaluable.

The Lindholm trade was a home run. The alternatives were let him walk or re-sign him to a disastrous long term retirement contract.

[Toonage]

To his credit Pinder went into damage control after that segment, suggesting Conroy could still do well and that everything isnt as bad as it would seem.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dino7c

If firsts are most likely busts we should trade them all I guess
Flames will most likely get at least one good player out of this deal

I agree because I trust the Flames scouting but oddswise a late 1st won't turn into much and I think Brzustewicz has the best chance of turning into something. If they can flip Vancouver's 1st for a younger centre they think has upside then they should go for it. It is still a great trade for the Flames but I have a hard time calling it a terrible trade for the Canucks.

[Nelson]

Noah Hanifin has an 8-team no trade list. I don't believe for a second Craig Conroy will hurt his team by limiting himself to the TB Lightning. No way. That's ridiculous. Frank Seravalli makes it sound like Conny has no choice but to take a lesser return because Hanifin (allegedly) wants to go to TB.

[looooob]

Originally Posted by blankall

The last 1st rounder that was a bust for the Flames was Mark Jankowski. Granted the jury is still out on Pelletier and Coronato, but the organization is much better off with prospects like that in the system. Having guys like Zary, on ELCs, is invaluable.

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your point remains mostly valid but the 2 later 2013s (the year after Jankowski) were busts

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by blankall

The last 1st rounder that was a bust for the Flames was Mark Jankowski. Granted the jury is still out on Pelletier and Coronato, but the organization is much better off with prospects like that in the system. Having guys like Zary, on ELCs, is invaluable.

The Lindholm trade was a home run. The alternatives were let him walk or re-sign him to a disastrous long term retirement contract.

I wouldn't even call Jankowski a bust.

327 games and counting from the last ten picks of the first round isn't a bust in my mind.

[dino7c]

If Vancouver signs Lindholm that deal becomes worse for them, not better

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Nelson

Noah Hanifin has an 8-team no trade list. I don't believe for a second Craig Conroy will hurt his team by limiting himself to the TB Lightning. No way. That's ridiculous. Frank Seravalli makes it sound like Conny has no choice but to take a lesser return because Hanifin (allegedly) wants to go to TB.

The thought behind it is no other team will want to pony up anything substantial because they know they won't be able to sign Hanifin to a long term deal as his heart is (allegedly) in Tampa Bay.

Thus Conroy could absolutely move him to any of the 23 teams available but for a fraction of what he could get otherwise.

I'd agree with others here that suggest he would probably be just fine headed to Miami to play with his buddy in that same Florida weather but what do I know.

[Jiggy_12]

Hanifin, even as a pure rental will still garner a good return.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Nelson

Noah Hanifin has an 8-team no trade list. I don't believe for a second Craig Conroy will hurt his team by limiting himself to the TB Lightning. No way. That's ridiculous. Frank Seravalli makes it sound like Conny has no choice but to take a lesser return because Hanifin (allegedly) wants to go to TB.

It isn't that Conroy has to trade with Tampa but moreso that his value goes down because he will be a rental no matter what. It is too bad that Boston and Tampa are the least interesting trade partners if those are indeed the front runners.