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Old 02-18-2024, 03:26 PM   #13441
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See, when you make stupid blanket statements like people who happen to watch a television show are... ... then you should expect to be called out for saying stupid things. What you shouldn't do is double down on the stupid thing you said.
Or, you know, you could maybe not take everything you read on here so seriously.
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Old 02-18-2024, 03:29 PM   #13442
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Pepsi just posted a statement that applies to rubecube equally well so I'll just copy his words
And yet you seem to struggle with basic reading comprehension when it comes to our posts and rarely, if ever, offer any kind of evidence-backed refutations.
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Most student debt is held by people who are in (or will be in) the top 25 per cent of Americans in income. More than half (56 per cent) of all student debt is held by the 14 per cent of Americans who went to graduate school.

https://educationdata.org/student-lo...y-income-level

Targeting forgiveness at working-class students who have moderate loans (as most do) seems fairer than spending 10s of billions from the public purse to compensate veterinarians, lawyers, and professors for tuition that vaulted them into the top earnings brackets.

Unless the intent is to buy off upper-middle-class voters in the same way making mortgage interest tax-deductible buys them off. But that seems an odd approach for people who champion a more egalitarian society.
Honest question, why should student debt be paid off by the government if the students did not go to a state-funded school? Choosing to go to a private liberal arts college that costs 45k/year versus 19k/year public university, I have trouble sympathizing for. Especially when you end up with the same bachelor degree. Should the government always provide loan forgiveness, especially for future students, knowing that the ‘system’ hasn’t been changed to lower tutition costs? If the system hasn’t changed, then it sounds like a waste of money, at least to me.

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I was going to do something similar with Pepsi’s post that it’s pointless to criticize people complaining about Biden because there’s nothing we can do about it, by pointing out that it’s equally useless for posters like PsYcNeT to complain about Biden in the first place. And yet those earlier posts about Biden didn’t seem to bother Pepsi at all.

It’s always comical when people police the behaviour of other posters in such a transparently partisan manner.
“People should be free to criticize Biden and Trump all they want here without worrying that it will impact votes.”

CLIFF: “Why, I find it so comical when people are so transparently partisan!”

Good effort Cliff. Maybe back to the drawing board on that one my intellectual try-hard little buddy.
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No idea where this "policing posters" thing came from.

Making accusations about election candidates without providing evidence to back up those claims is a douchy thing to do, but you're free to do it.

But other posters are free to call you out when you do it.
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Neither am I, what a nightmare.

I just don’t buy why anyone would care about avoiding criticism of Biden in this thread, here. Every poster here that I’m aware of with the ability to vote in the US isn’t voting Trump regardless of how hard people trash Biden.

I feel like, sometimes, people think the impact here is bigger than it is. Not a lot of what we discuss is going to convince anyone but the people discussing it. So when it comes to Trump vs Biden, it’s pretty unlikely that criticism of Biden on CalgaryPuck is going to have any measurable impact on voting in the US. You know?
Well couldn't that logic be applied to just about anything on CP? Like why does CP even exist, nothing anyone posts is going to affect anything in the real world so...?
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Well couldn't that logic be applied to just about anything on CP? Like why does CP even exist, nothing anyone posts is going to affect anything in the real world so...?
Conversation, entertainment, testing your own thoughts about a subject, lots of reasons CP exists (mostly the Calgary Flames, though).

It’s a response to the idea that criticism or excessive “harshness” about Biden is somehow enabling/promoting Trump, which is not an actual risk here. Stuff like suggesting people who don’t like Biden must want Trump or that they believe withholding votes from Biden will fix Gaza or something. It’s just missing the point on purpose.
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Honest question, why should student debt be paid off by the government if the students did not go to a state-funded school? Choosing to go to a private liberal arts college that costs 45k/year versus 19k/year public university, I have trouble sympathizing for. Especially when you end up with the same bachelor degree. Should the government always provide loan forgiveness, especially for future students, knowing that the ‘system’ hasn’t been changed to lower tutition costs? If the system hasn’t changed, then it sounds like a waste of money, at least to me.
The loan forgiveness thing is more feel good crap while leaving the underlying problem completely unaddressed. The plastic straw ban of education which is significantly more accessible to the wealthy.
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And yet you seem to struggle with basic reading comprehension when it comes to our posts and rarely, if ever, offer any kind of evidence-backed refutations.
Hahaha, good one.
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Old 02-18-2024, 07:27 PM   #13450
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Or, you know, you could maybe not take everything you read on here so seriously.
Ugh, this #### is the weakest “get out of anything I say” card.
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Ugh, this #### is the weakest “get out of anything I say” card.
Do you honestly believe that I think that every Bill Maher fan is transphobic? It was very clearly meant to be a joke regarding the direction Maher has taken his show/persona as of late and who he seems to be trying to cater to.

If you're too thin-skinned to take something that light, maybe take a break from the internet.
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One of my favorites Fareed Zakaria punches Tucker in the mouth.

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Old 02-18-2024, 08:13 PM   #13453
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Do you honestly believe that I think that every Bill Maher fan is transphobic? It was very clearly meant to be a joke regarding the direction Maher has taken his show/persona as of late and who he seems to be trying to cater to.

If you're too thin-skinned to take something that light, maybe take a break from the internet.

Recently? You've been going on about Maher since at least 2015.
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Old 02-18-2024, 09:27 PM   #13454
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Recently? You've been going on about Maher since at least 2015.
I'm sure you have receipts to back this up?

Regardless, I've always found Maher to be a pseudo intellectual blow hard. He proved that long ago with his anti-vaxx nonsense. He's proven time and time again to only care about evidence when it suits whatever ideological bent he's on.

What is it you like about him so much?
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I'm sure you have receipts to back this up?
Yes, in 2015 you posted that

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He said something in 2015, and then 9 years later he's still "going on about it?"

It's creepy you remember that far back (or remembered to search for a post from 2015), and even creepier that you've been holding onto this for almost a decade in your back pocket you think is going to be a "gotcha".
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He said something in 2015, and then 9 years later he's still "going on about it?"

It's creepy you remember that far back (or remembered to search for a post from 2015), and even creepier that you've been holding onto this for almost a decade in your back pocket you think is going to be a "gotcha".
Oh sit down you self victimizing loser, #### me if you don’t have a little notebook next to your bed of all the big bad internet people who’ve ever dumped on you. Didnt you recently bring up a significantly older comment about me telling you that you should use public transit? I think you did. And I still stand by that comment.
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Yeah you said I should die by getting hit by a bus. Sounds like you wish for me to still die.

Do I need to send you more resources on how thinking like this is bad for your health?
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Yeah you said I should die by getting hit by a bus. Sounds like you wish for me to still die.

Do I need to send you more resources on how thinking like this is bad for your health?
Still the victim I see? Well keep on being a hypocritical loser, and as I’ve explained before I don’t wish you to die. Your existence is something I’m indifferent towards but you haven’t figured out that difference either.

In any case I’m sure there’s a pity party I’m keeping you from. Don’t forget to grab your receipts you hypocrite self victimizing loser.
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Yeah you said I should die by getting hit by a bus. Sounds like you wish for me to still die.
Wait... are we allowed to just directly express a desire that other posters should die? I could have sworn that's the sort of thing that you're not supposed to do here.
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