[Rumour] Friedman: Devils and Flames have had legit discussions about Markstrom

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Ahh ...Sarcasm?

And “NHL is a developmental league” isn’t sarcasm?

[The Fonz]

Our goaltender who we’re expecting a Kings Ransom for, was not even in the NHL at 22.

Our best all-time goaltender, Kiprusoff, was not an NHL goaltender at 22.

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Cripes man. If you think you know who a player is when he’s in the NHL at 22, and that there is no more development (ie experience) for him to gain.

Why are we even talking… you haven’t been paying attention the last 30 to forever years

That’s funny!

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Our goaltender who we’re expecting a Kings Ransom for, was not even in the NHL at 22.

Our best all-time goaltender, Kiprusoff, was not an NHL goaltender at 22.

Ok ok
You’ve convinced me

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Cripes man. If you think you know who a player is when he’s in the NHL at 22, and that there is no more development (ie experience) for him to gain.

Why are we even talking… you haven’t been paying attention the last 30 to forever years

Have to agree . Markstom was a in-betweener for 5 years!

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by All In Good Time

And “NHL is a developmental league” isn’t sarcasm?

MarkStrom was not a nhler regular till he was like 26. He was back up to Lack... well 1a/1b buck lack played like a4 more games.

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by All In Good Time

Nope

It’s always professional at these prices
Every bad showing at the beginning = pressure
The clock ticks and if you don’t deliver, you’re expendable/a liability

You're right, every performance will be the same from now on. We're screwed.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

MarkStrom was not a nhler regular till he was like 26. He was back up to Lack... well 1a/1b buck lack played like a4 more games.

He played 23 games when he was 22, and he first played at 20.
But yes, he didn't become a starter until he was 27. So he had a lot of NHL time, but it took a lot of NHL time to become a starter.

[Jacks]

Personally I'm not a believer that Wolf will be a star until I see it. Been burned too many times with Kidd, Irving, Gillies, Parsons, etc. etc.

That said this was his 7th NHL game and he might have went into it knowing Markstrom can't go in and the pressure is on him. Ease up a little folks.

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

He played 23 games when he was 22, and he first played at 20.
But yes, he didn't become a starter until he was 27. So he had a lot of NHL time, but it took a lot of NHL time to become a starter.

One could almost say, he needed to develop at the NHL level.

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by Redrum

You're right, every performance will be the same from now on. We're screwed.

Christ
That’s not what I’m saying
Scrutiny is part of professionalism
And
If scrutiny isn’t allowed here
So be it
I can live with that


As long as the boys are having fun I suppose

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by All In Good Time

Christ
That’s not what I’m saying
Scrutiny is part of professionalism
And
If scrutiny isn’t allowed here
So be it
I can live with that

There’s a middle ground. I just don’t think the clock is really ticking on wolf until the Flames need to be good. This is the time for the team to develop players.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Jacks

Personally I'm not a believer that Wolf will be a star until I see it. Been burned too many times with Kidd, Irving, Gillies, Parsons, etc. etc.

That said this was his 7th NHL game and he might have went into it knowing Markstrom can't go in and the pressure is on him. Ease up a little folks.

Maybe not.

But at the very least he should be given more rope to try and prove himself than guys like Irving and Gillies got (hardly any rope at all).

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by All In Good Time

Christ
That’s not what I’m saying
Scrutiny is part of professionalism
And
If scrutiny isn’t allowed here
So be it
I can live with that

Nothing wrong with scrutiny. But don’t say the NHL isn’t a developmental league.

Every league is developmental. The NHL is just the top tier. This does not mean that development doesn’t occur and is not required - you’d be absolutely wrong if you thought otherwise.

[dammage79]

Yeah imagine if that was your plateau, get to the NHL and that's it. That's what you are.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Nothing wrong with scrutiny. But don’t say the NHL isn’t a developmental league.

Every league is developmental. The NHL is just the top tier. This does not mean that development doesn’t occur and is not required - you’d be absolutely wrong if you thought otherwise.

Sutter was the one who said that, if you remember.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Nothing wrong with scrutiny. But don’t say the NHL isn’t a developmental league.

Every league is developmental. The NHL is just the top tier. This does not mean that development doesn’t occur and is not required - you’d be absolutely wrong if you thought otherwise.

It's especially a development league when it comes to goaltending.

Rask took his time behind Thomas
Saros took his time behind Rinne
Shesterkin played behind Lundqvist
Swayman played behind Rask

The list goes on.

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Sutter was the one who said that, if you remember.

Don’t give a rip. He also pretended he didn’t know who Pelletier was.

Don’t read too much into what Sutter said in his interviews.

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by Bonded

There’s a middle ground. I just don’t think the clock is really ticking on wolf until the Flames need to be good. This is the time for the team to develop players.

Ok
I guess I just have a different definition of professionalism
Mentoring is a huge part of professionalism
And
Wolf has showed us (at an NHL level at least) that he may be a little lost in the woods
And
Perhaps I’m thinking for the long run that it might be best to mentor him with markstrom instead of throwing him to the wolves
But
That’s just an unprofessional opinion

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

A rare situation where every one in Calgary knows before Friedman, Weekes etc.

Which amuses me greatly.