02-15-2024, 03:35 PM
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#21581
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#1 Goaltender
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On the topic of Tanev, I have to think any team that is willing to up their offer to a 1st, is going to want an add from the Flames, for it all to come together.
I wonder what the add would be? A 4th? 5th? B prospect? Ben Honowski? Rights to Theo Fleury?
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02-15-2024, 03:36 PM
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#21582
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Rights to Theo Fleury?
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You'll have to take his rights and his freedoms.
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02-15-2024, 03:37 PM
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#21583
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Originally Posted by activeStick
Kypreos on his show very confidently said that there is no way the Leafs don't trade away their 1st by the trade deadline. Wonder if Conroy has been waiting for Treliving to flinch given the Toronto 1st would be the highest out of the teams rumored to be interested in Tanev.
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I also think they're the only team that could blink. If the Flames are getting a 1st for Tanev, the only team I see giving it is Toronto.
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02-15-2024, 03:43 PM
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#21584
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
I also think they're the only team that could blink. If the Flames are getting a 1st for Tanev, the only team I see giving it is Toronto.
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I could see the Stars as well. Their window is open now, and they already have a good group of prospects they can pencil in to refresh the lineup over the next 1-3 years. But Conroy might prefer prospects to the pick.
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02-15-2024, 03:49 PM
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#21585
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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I'd wager on the stars being willing to deal a conditional 2nd/1st.
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02-15-2024, 03:50 PM
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#21586
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Right now Toronto's 1st round pick would be 20th overall. That's a fairly high 1st round pick for a buying team.
I think the Flames would have to give up a 2nd or 3rd in addition to Tanev to get the value to work.
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02-15-2024, 03:51 PM
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#21587
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Franchise Player
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Just heard on Kyper and Bourne that Jake Guentzel is out for at least 4 weeks due to injury.
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02-15-2024, 03:52 PM
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Ben Chiarot was traded for a 1st, prospect and 3rd as a pure rental.
We are not adding to Tanev to get a 1st.
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02-15-2024, 03:54 PM
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#21590
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
Right now Toronto's 1st round pick would be 20th overall. That's a fairly high 1st round pick for a buying team.
I think the Flames would have to give up a 2nd or 3rd in addition to Tanev to get the value to work.
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Nice try, Brad.
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02-15-2024, 03:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Ben Chiarot was traded for a 1st, prospect and 3rd as a pure rental.
We are not adding to Tanev to get a 1st.
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I hope he gets a 1st, but that trade for Chiarot was nuts and never made sense. Florida regretted it almost immediately.
I'm just saying what I perceive to be fair value for Tanev. Getting the 20th overall pick is unbelievable value.
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02-15-2024, 03:55 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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And a trade in a previous season is certainly a data point, and a good place to build a package comparison.
But markets change.
Especially if said market resulted in an over pay.
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02-15-2024, 03:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
I hope he gets a 1st, but that trade for Chiarot was nuts and never made sense. Florida regretted it almost immediately.
I'm just saying what I perceive to be fair value for Tanev. Getting the 20th overall pick is unbelievable value.
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If Toronto plans to get Tanev and still finish in the same spot, there is no point in making a trade.
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02-15-2024, 03:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
And a trade in a previous season is certainly a data point, and a good place to build a package comparison.
But markets change.
Especially if said market resulted in an over pay.
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That's fair.
But saying we will have to add a 2nd or a 3rd to get a 1st is ridiculous.
From all accounts if Conroy wants he can get a 2nd for him no problem. Not sure how adding a valuable 2nd pick would be fair to get a 1st. That 1st and 2nd most likely will be what 10-15 picks apart? That's virtually giving Tanev away to climb up a few spots in the draft.
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02-15-2024, 03:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
I hope he gets a 1st, but that trade for Chiarot was nuts and never made sense. Florida regretted it almost immediately.
I'm just saying what I perceive to be fair value for Tanev. Getting the 20th overall pick is unbelievable value.
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Sure, but there's no way conroy is giving up our likely high second round pick for Toronto's low 1st and they get tanev. That's crazy.
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02-15-2024, 04:00 PM
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#21596
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Location: Calgary, AB
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Guentzel and Ristolainen both being hurt means the Flames need to get moving here, don't want to risk the same thing.
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02-15-2024, 04:00 PM
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#21597
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Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Tanev is worth more than the difference between a 2nd and a 1st in the 20s.
Conman would get thrashed if that's what he came up with after waiting patiently for months to make the deal.
He's the hottest commodity on the D market. He should get a smaller haul than Lindy, but still a haul.
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02-15-2024, 04:00 PM
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#21598
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Franchise Player
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Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by activeStick
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Well played, Jake.
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02-15-2024, 04:02 PM
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#21599
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02-15-2024, 04:02 PM
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Guentzel and Ristolainen both being hurt means the Flames need to get moving here, don't want to risk the same thing.
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No, it means that the price just went up.
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