Russia invades Ukraine

[FlamesAddiction]

I wonder how Poland reacts if it appears that Russia starts moving to a point that they can impose victory conditions. They have been very vocal that it is an existential threat for them if Russia is victorious. They have been militarizing like crazy are are arguably already one of Europe's top military powers.

Does anyone see a situation where Poland enters the war, outside of NATO, if Russia starts gaining substantial ground?

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by Itse

Starting to look like Putin doesn't even need to win the US presidential election, since he already has the Republicans on his side and can simply use them to block US military aid.

It's kind of funny. I distinctly remember predicting somewhere around the time when Trump got elected that being pro- or anti-Russian will become a dividing line between GOP and Dems, but I didn't really expect it to become this... literal and graphic.

But what can you do. Conservative authoritarians love each other.

Perhaps we will look back if and when Putin decides to grow this conflict and wonder why the world allowed this to occur. He needs to be stopped but just isn't. It will just be more expensive and bloody the next go around.

Perhaps at the start if the message was sent that he and his cronies are done you could prevent this. Far too much paper shuffling and not enough brass balls compelled with brains

[Leondros]

Originally Posted by curves2000

Perhaps we will look back if and when Putin decides to grow this conflict and wonder why the world allowed this to occur. He needs to be stopped but just isn't. It will just be more expensive and bloody the next go around.

Perhaps at the start if the message was sent that he and his cronies are done you could prevent this. Far too much paper shuffling and not enough brass balls compelled with brains

I don't think Putin has the economy, the assets, or the willpower to really grow this conflict. This war will set Russia back decades in terms of needing to get back on their feet not to mention the geopolitical goodwill they have lost. Their army has shrunk immensely and their remaining equipment would get absolutely decimated by any number of the strongest militaries out there.

[Cheese]

General Mick Ryan talks about the removal of General Zaluzhnyi and the expected changes outlined by President Zelenskyy.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1755739875763196288


Many fires in Orc land yesterday!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1755854451372441881

https://twitter.com/user/status/1755729816035471500

https://twitter.com/user/status/1755700232783102343

https://twitter.com/user/status/1755701201403101288


Schwarzenegger's message to the Russian people

https://twitter.com/user/status/1755935680356553196


US getting some weapons through

https://twitter.com/user/status/1755912825724076223


Norway will send 10 additional 10 more NASAMS units

https://twitter.com/user/status/1755915317753045251

https://twitter.com/user/status/1755915103927447809

https://twitter.com/user/status/1755928399107731710

[Huntingwhale]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1756247588922122460

https://twitter.com/user/status/1756239130076307775

Absolutely disgusting russian terrorist attack yesterday in Kharkiv. My wife says this was the district her and her Mom used to live in. One of the units hit was her classmate's who has now lost everything. Some of the victims in this terrorist attack was a family of 7, including children literally burned alive.

The fact there are millions of voters in the US who support the party that is blocking aid that assists in combating this is beyond reprehensible.

[Southside403]

https://youtu.be/CA4xluIzGyU?si=T9ZXY0XPxY1Snyfo

[Cheese]

Himars fun

https://twitter.com/user/status/1757103272782147623


Musk gets a swipe to the head

https://twitter.com/user/status/1757284792226226678


War is filth, excrement, and bloodshed.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1757317875495317860


Avdiivkas numbers

https://twitter.com/user/status/1757458304580636769

[Fuzz]

Musk sidling up with Republicans and Putin is pretty ####ing disgusting. I mean, we all knew that's how he felt but now he's pushing it on Xitter out in the open. That's what happens when you normalize evil. Evil people feel safe to come out of the shadows.

[Firebot]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1757675790756434112

New submarine in Russia's Black Fleet courtesy of Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1757677730345185295

[Cheese]

More stuff on Russias new submarine as Firebot mentioned above.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1757680406722158964

https://twitter.com/user/status/1757697251831373848

https://twitter.com/user/status/1757683708390158839


Netherlands joining the drone coalition

https://twitter.com/user/status/1757760560232386931

[Johnny Makarov]

hmmm with low cost drones being super effective killing machines, how long before we start seeing them in North American cities with gangs using them? or right wing deplorables?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

hmmm with low cost drones being super effective killing machines, how long before we start seeing them in North American cities with gangs using them? or right wing deplorables?

Mexican cartels are already using them.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Mexican cartels are already using them.

Perfect. Now "higher walls" will win the election.

[FLAMESRULE]

It still baffles me that a small speed boat sized object like these UAV maritime drones can get that close to a modern warship. Anyone know if they use anti-radar/sonar/noise tech or is the Russian gear that bad (a bit rhetorical)?

[Coach]

Originally Posted by FLAMESRULE

It still baffles me that a small speed boat sized object like these UAV maritime drones can get that close to a modern warship. Anyone know if they use anti-radar/sonar/noise tech or is the Russian gear that bad (a bit rhetorical)?

I don't think it's even just a Russian gear thing. Radars overall have been built to detect large and/or fast moving objects, and detecting something small bouncing along with the interference of the sea is probably a taller order for radar than you would first think.

It's like, how did you get bit by a spider? Did you not see, hear, or even feel it on you? No, our senses aren't built for that.

I think Ukraine, through pure ingenuity in the face of a giant opposition and late/dwindling support, found a gap in tech built for war in a different century. I wouldn't be surprised if the US/China is watching this going "oh crap, are we prepared to defend that type of thing?" and they probably aren't. Military contracts from 30 years ago had no forethought for this type of attack.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

Perfect. Now "higher walls" will win the election.

Walls to Space - 2024

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by FLAMESRULE

It still baffles me that a small speed boat sized object like these UAV maritime drones can get that close to a modern warship. Anyone know if they use anti-radar/sonar/noise tech or is the Russian gear that bad (a bit rhetorical)?

Seems to me a small object would be a bazillion times more difficult to defend against than a large object.

[Barnes]

I am no naval strategist but it seems to me like the Black Sea Fleet has a large amount of landing ships compared to other ship types which so far have only really been successful landing on the seabed.

[Fuzz]

Radar does not work well on objects close to water. And it's easy enough to design a drone boat with low radar reflective shapes(like a rubber dingy with no sharp angles) that would make it even harder. Marine boats are required to have a radar reflector with 90 degree angles so they have a better chance of being spotted, so even your typical sail boat doesn't always show up well on its own.


That said, it wouldn't surprise me at all to know the US military has other technology that could see them.

[FLAMESRULE]

Originally Posted by Coach

I don't think it's even just a Russian gear thing. Radars overall have been built to detect large and/or fast moving objects, and detecting something small bouncing along with the interference of the sea is probably a taller order for radar than you would first think.

It's like, how did you get bit by a spider? Did you not see, hear, or even feel it on you? No, our senses aren't built for that.

I think Ukraine, through pure ingenuity in the face of a giant opposition and late/dwindling support, found a gap in tech built for war in a different century. I wouldn't be surprised if the US/China is watching this going "oh crap, are we prepared to defend that type of thing?" and they probably aren't. Military contracts from 30 years ago had no forethought for this type of attack.

Maybe, but they can shoot down small aerial drones with relative ease (not the really small, grenade carrying ones). I agree that its likely the interface of air-water-spray and having a very thin profile that makes them really hard to "see" with the different reflection/refraction indexes. I know the Ukrainians also have aerial balloons with acoustic sensors that they're using to track and shoot down the small aerial drones. But I completely agree its pure ingenuity and its bloody amazing.

https://interestingengineering.com/m...alloons-awe-us