2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Dan403

JOSH REINITZ of the Hockey Writers posted this today:

"the Flames are in line for a good return. A package including Kevin Bahl, Graeme Clarke, and a future second-round pick should be sufficient to land Hanifin without either retention or an extension."

Are Clarke & Bahl any good?

Nothing special.

[Harry Lime]

I'd do tanev 50% and the 1st we just got from Vancouver for lian bischel, straight up. Coming out of a a lindholm and tanev trade with a future top pairing of bischel and bruiser-vich, would be pretty sweet.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Seems every time I have hockey some big move goes down...I had hockey on on the day of the Lindholm trade and have a game tonight

Trade incoming
D5 red alert

[gvitaly]

Not sure if it was posted anywhere, but Schwindt was assigned back to the Wranglers this morning.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1757449580323434814

I'm guessing it's mostly to save some more cap-space. The move could also be a reaction to Pelletier going down yesterday. In case the Flames feel like they need a 4th line W instead.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

Not sure if it was posted anywhere, but Schwindt was assigned back to the Wranglers this morning.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1757449580323434814

I'm guessing it's mostly to save some more cap-space. The move could also be a reaction to Pelletier going down yesterday. In case the Flames feel like they need a 4th line W instead.

Here is what Sec was alluding to!!!!

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

Not sure if it was posted anywhere, but Schwindt was assigned back to the Wranglers this morning.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1757449580323434814

I'm guessing it's mostly to save some more cap-space. The move could also be a reaction to Pelletier going down yesterday. In case the Flames feel like they need a 4th line W instead.

And/or good news on Pelletier as the Flames like to have an extra forward on hand. The Wranglers being in Calgary always obfuscates the thinking behind these moves.

[Nelson]

Beginning at 17:43 of hour 2 of Real Kyper and Bourne from today, Elliotte Friedman discusses the Flames' approach to the deadline. I'm just listening to it now, but I thought I'd let others know.

Friedman says "yeah, they're looking to move", in response to Nick Kypreos' comment on Calgary, "they have to unload".

Nick Kypreos said he heard someone say that Calgary might be willing to go to 8 million dollars per year for Hanifin. Friedman says the offer to Hanifin earlier in the year, was 8 years * 7.5 million, and he hasn't heard of an 8 million dollar offer. He thinks the offer remains 8 years * 7.5 million. He says Calgary had a verbal agreement, but Hanifin ultimately changed his mind. He says he doesn't know what the answer is from Hanifin's camp. He says he believes Hanifin prefers to go to the United States, but Hanifin softened his stance at some point, but he says that's still the preference. But he says that even if Toronto traded for Hanifin, they would have a very tough time signing Hanifin long-term. But Hanifin would be happy to play for them until the summer.

Friedman says Calgary is trying to get a 1st for Tanev, and there isn't a 1st on the table for him currently.

Friedman says he would've said Calgary was rebuilding well if they would've got what he thinks they were gonna get in return for Markstrom.

[cral12]

Originally Posted by D as in David

And/or good news on Pelletier as the Flames like to have an extra forward on hand. The Wranglers being in Calgary always obfuscates the thinking behind these moves.

Came into the thread to use "obfuscates" in a sentence. Beaten to the punch. Well played.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by cral12

Came into the thread to use "obfuscates" in a sentence. Beaten to the punch. Well played.

It's a great word to use in written form but whenever I try to pronounce it, I often obfuscate it.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by D as in David

And/or good news on Pelletier as the Flames like to have an extra forward on hand. The Wranglers being in Calgary always obfuscates the thinking behind these moves.

With the Flames having so many Wranglers up and down this year it has mostly become non-news at this point.

Players that played for both Wranglers and Flames:
9 Forwards
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Zary
Pospisil
Pelletier
Coronato
Rooney
Duehr
Hunt
Schwindt
Klapka

5 Defensemen
---
Kylington
Oesterle
Desimone
Solovyov
Kuznetsov

1 Goalie
---
Wolf

[ComixZone]

Going to be interesting once they put up the podcast form, will want to listen to this:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1757544396302524764

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Going to be interesting once they put up the podcast form, will want to listen to this:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1757544396302524764

Comments like this suggest rebuild not retool.

So many have said cheering for a rebuilding team would be painful, this actually is pretty exciting times.

Can't wait for the next move.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Comments like this suggest rebuild not retool.

So many have said cheering for a rebuilding team would be painful, this actually is pretty exciting times.

Can't wait for the next move.

Scorched earth rebuilds take longer than 3 years for sure, and maybe we can just dismiss the “r” word conversation at this point and we can just talk about the “2027” plan.

The plan is to be a better team for 2027.

[bax]

Man I’m really curious what that Markstrom return would have been

[Poe969]

So is the markstrom trade dead?

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Poe969

So is the markstrom trade dead?

Friedman said it was “scuttled” right now, but wouldn’t say it’s dead when he was talking about it.

Frank said it fell apart for unknown reasons.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Scorched earth rebuilds take longer than 3 years for sure, and maybe we can just dismiss the “r” word conversation at this point and we can just talk about the “2027” plan.

The plan is to be a better team for 2027.

I agree that rebuilds "could" take longer but even come 2027 if the Flames were a team on the rise that wasn't quite there yet it would be considered a success for opening night 2027.

Unfortunately, we aren't getting a top 5 pick this year without some luck. Over the next couple years, we have tons of guys that can land 1sts in trades though and have a lot of quality young guys already playing or ready to take spots.

[Hackey]

2027 they expect to be good? I'd almost expect that to be where they bottom out.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

I agree that rebuilds "could" take longer but even come 2027 if the Flames were a team on the rise that wasn't quite there yet it would be considered a success for opening night 2027.

Unfortunately, we aren't getting a top 5 pick this year without some luck. Over the next couple years, we have tons of guys that can land 1sts in trades though and have a lot of quality young guys already playing or ready to take spots.

Trading Jacob Markstrom will get them a top-5 pick.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Nelson

Friedman says he would've said Calgary was rebuilding well if they would've got what he thinks they were gonna get in return for Markstrom.

Stop twisting that knife lol.