The rule is after two pro seasons you are eligible for the expansion draft. If I am not mistaken, a pro season is considered more than 9 games in either the NHL, or the AHL/ECHL under an NHL contract (July1-June 30).
When Gilles was injured in his first season under contract, his lost season was not considered a pro season. But that was his first season (i.e. he hadn't began to accrue his pro seasons yet)
Valimaki started accruing his pro seasons last year - I am not sure if there is a pause button for this.
I have never seen anything that indicates that a season lost to injury would result in the stoppage of a pro season accrual. This question could also be rephrased as: Should we hope that his injury keeps him out for the entire year to help the team in the expansion draft?
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Believe at the time the Flames had to apply for an exception, because the expansion terms needed to be interpreted and did not provide explicitly for every case - but legal definition was 10 games or more played. Thought that they applied and received an exception for Gillies. If he doesn't touch the ice this year, I think the Flames would be pretty hard done by and be having the lawyers look at expansion terminology in pretty intense detail if he has to be exposed. I don't know how Gillies can be exempt but Valimaki not, whether its year 1 or year 2 is not really relevant because it's not like the entry level deal rolled over for Gillies - should be a simple assessment of whether or not the year counts as a "professional year"
I don't know how you can count a year where he doesn't play hockey at any level as a professional season under any definition.
That said, if he touches the ice their argument weakens and if he plays 10 games which is the legal definition of a pro season I've seen I think they're screwed and will lose a major asset on the blueline.
I also heard that they'd have to seek an exemption. I think the league would look pretty kindly at it, depending on actual games played in a row. Plus, Calgary will be exposing a good defenceman anyway. Likely Gio.
Niklas Hjalmarsson (hopefully without the injuries).
Which, incidentally, is a heck of a compliment.
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The rule is after two pro seasons you are eligible for the expansion draft. If I am not mistaken, a pro season is considered more than 9 games in either the NHL, or the AHL/ECHL under an NHL contract (July1-June 30).
When Gilles was injured in his first season under contract, his lost season was not considered a pro season. But that was his first season (i.e. he hadn't began to accrue his pro seasons yet)
Valimaki started accruing his pro seasons last year - I am not sure if there is a pause button for this.
I have never seen anything that indicates that a season lost to injury would result in the stoppage of a pro season accrual. This question could also be rephrased as: Should we hope that his injury keeps him out for the entire year to help the team in the expansion draft?
I saw it as a possible silver lining in a very unfortunate injury but wouldn't hope for it. Thanks for your response.
Thought an Andersson thread deserved a bump. For all the talk the emergence of Kylington got, especially early on, I feel that Andersson hasn't got the full kudos he has deserved this year. He is on pace for 52 points, and has been outstanding defensively as well. I'd have to say he has been the biggest benefactor of the Gio departure as he's been pushed into a bigger role and excelled. Four more years at $4.55 million is a great contract for this team.
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Andersson is one of the smartest players in the game. Just elite decision making. I think his confidence is peaking this year, and with the two of those things combined he’s looking like a bonafide #1.
I feel like his skating has leaped forward this year as well. I wonder if he worked on it in the off-season?
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Andersson is one of the smartest players in the game. Just elite decision making. I think his confidence is peaking this year, and with the two of those things combined he’s looking like a bonafide #1.
I feel like his skating has leaped forward this year as well. I wonder if he worked on it in the off-season?
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I think Danielle Fujita has gone under the radar and has quietly been a huge part in the transformation of this team. I’ve seen improvements in skating in literally every player and feel like she is a secret weapon for this club, the efficiency in skating and effortless ability to generate speed is lending hand to the checking style Sutter demands and it’s been a treat to watch and a noticeable boost in offence for so many on this club. Give her thanks CP!!!
I notice that Andersson looks a lot quicker this year too. Treliving said that last year was hard on the younger guys like Andersson because after they left the rink they couldn't do anything.
This year he has rebounded big time and he's the guy who filled the void that was left by Giordano.
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I think Andersson is player example 1a of Sutter being shocked last year when arriving how most of the team wasn't in proper physical shape. Last year and bubble year he looked gassed often, noticeable because his play on a shift deteriorated that obviously. This year, none of that from what I've seen, so his fitness level has dramatically increased.
As far as skating technique, and any extra training and practice, you get out of it what you put into it. The confidence required to trust your skill level to skate like this, but then also your confidence in your ability to get back from a rush and not be gassed to play defense for another 45 seconds, is also important, so conditioning and technique and confidence goes hand in hand.
There is at least one CP poster who should be eating shovel-fulls of crow for all the bitching he posterd about Andersson last season and through the summer. (You know who you are.)
It just goes to show that huge improvements in a player can actually occur beyond their early-twenties. Andersson has proven this year that he is a terrific defenseman, and well worth the investment that Treliving made in his extension last year.
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The Hamonic trade was an absolute tire fire. Rather than letting the rebuild take its course Treliving had to find the most overpriced stay at home D man on the market. Even with the fact that Hamonic was only going to go to a select few teams for family reasons Treliving still paid through the nose for him. I know this franchise has had some horrible trades, and many before my time, but this trade is right behind Dion's for me since I have been a fan. Such a short sighted and ill advised move by a shortsighted GM. Treliving and the Flames got completely rinsed.
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