[Rumour] TSN: Hanifin decision expected in coming days. D market waits on Tanev

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

As mentioned above by GioforPM, guys like Forbort are commanding $3 million a season. The people that want Hanafin gone may be up for a rude awakening when they find out how hard it's going to be to replace him in the lineup.

The Hurricanes already lived through this and did a pretty fine job of it.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

As mentioned above by GioforPM, guys like Forbort are commanding $3 million a season. The people that want Hanafin gone may be up for a rude awakening when they find out how hard it's going to be to replace him in the lineup.

And the Bruins are an elite destination.

Try that shopping list on for size in the bottom 7 franchises league wide!

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by butterfly

The Hurricanes already lived through this and did a pretty fine job of it.

Disagree. They got Burns out of a very fortunate situation that can't be replicated and are paying Orlov $7.75 million a season, woof.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

As mentioned above by GioforPM, guys like Forbort are commanding $3 million a season. The people that want Hanafin gone may be up for a rude awakening when they find out how hard it's going to be to replace him in the lineup.

This. 7.5AAV isn't that bad when the cap is expected to go to 88M to 92M in the next couple years. a 7.5 cap hit is 8.5% of the cap. Which will only reduce as the cap climbs. In 4 years it that contract will be sub 8% of the cap hit.

[Strange Brew]

The Flames are missing a true #1 on the back end. We have three very good second pairing guys IMO that are still relatively young.

That works if you have an elite forward group, which we clearly don't.

Sign Hanifin or trade him, IMO it comes down to your plan for closing the talent gap.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Robbob

This. 7.5AAV isn't that bad when the cap is expected to go to 88M to 92M in the next couple years. a 7.5 cap hit is 8.5% of the cap. Which will only reduce as the cap climbs. In 4 years it that contract will be sub 8% of the cap hit.

When Treliving signed prime Hanifin to an extension it was 6.2% of cap.

Now we pay more for the decline years?

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by butterfly

When Treliving signed prime Hanifin to an extension it was 6.2% of cap.

Now we pay more for the decline years?

He was signed as a third pairing guy with pedigree.

Now he's a first pairing defenseman and a minute muncher.

[flames_fan_down_under]

Originally Posted by CFO

Extend hanafin.

Trade tanev.

Let's go!

Extend Tanev.

Trade Hanifin!

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Because Hanifin is not that common. You pray one of those high 1st rounders turns into a player like that. He’s been an NHL d since he was 18. You know exactly what you get from him every game and he is resilient to injuries.

With the cap going up, that 7.5 is a bargain for Noah’s prime years IMO.

Only trade him if he doesn’t want to be here.

If he was this unicorn he would be getting much more then 7.5

He’s was overmatched in playoffs vs Oilers . He can’t really run the PP. He’s pretty decent a offense. He’s good at everything and elite at nothing

I have never seen him raise his game when it matters or shut down a top line

I think he’s a great #3 D / 2nd pairing guy on a contender(Bit like JayBo)

If he was this rare and valuable he would be hitting UFA for sure with teams throwing much more then 7.5 at him, not considering taking the Flames offer at any point this season

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by butterfly

When Treliving signed prime Hanifin to an extension it was 6.2% of cap.

Now we pay more for the decline years?

He was an RFA back then...different circumstances. Better measure would be to see what UFA Dmen were going for.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by butterfly

When Treliving signed prime Hanifin to an extension it was 6.2% of cap.

Now we pay more for the decline years?

Treliving didn’t extend Prime Hanifin. He signed 21 year old Hanifin. Who was an RFA, not a pending UFA. He’s at his Prime right now, and that’s probably the case for 4 more years at least.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

If he was this unicorn he would be getting much more then 7.5

He’s was overmatched in playoffs vs Oilers . He can’t really run the PP. He’s pretty decent a offense. He’s good at everything and elite at nothing

I have never seen him raise his game when it matters or shut down a top line

I think he’s a great #3 D / 2nd pairing guy on a contender(Bit like JayBo)

If he was this rare and valuable he would be hitting UFA for sure with teams throwing much more then 7.5 at him, not considering taking the Flames offer at any point this season

Lot of real estate between valuable piece and unicorn.

Nobody is suggesting he's Bobby Orr.

He's a very good 2/3 defenseman at a great age playing for a team that doesn't attract UFA talent without a catch.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Treliving didn’t extend Prime Hanifin. He signed 21 year old Hanifin. Who was an RFA, not a pending UFA. He’s at his Prime right now, and that’s probably the case for 4 more years at least.

What was he going to do, hold out? The contract bought up prime UFA years, and no decline years. Great trade and extensions.

You open windows to compete when you underpay people like Lindholm and Hanifin. Unfortunately it didn’t work out this time, so let’s move on.

I mean if Boston is paying Forbort $3M and it’s so hard to find players like Hanifin, imagine what we could get from a team who needs one. With retention he’d be cheaper than Forbort.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by butterfly

When Treliving signed prime Hanifin to an extension it was 6.2% of cap.

Now we pay more for the decline years?

… the bias on this stinks. This doesn’t make a lick of sense.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Lot of real estate between valuable piece and unicorn.

Nobody is suggesting he's Bobby Orr.

He's a very good 2/3 defenseman at a great age playing for a team that doesn't attract UFA talent without a catch.

And Flames don’t need a very good #3 D at 7.5 million during rebuilding years .

Get the assets and use the flexibility with your cap when it matters

[bax]

Nemec isn’t a realistic target. There’s an argument to be made that the guy is almost as good as Hanifin right now and he’s not even 20 years old.

A NJ first and Casey would be a really good return. Casey is on a great trajectory and should be a solid NHL player.

3 firsts in 2024, Pelletier, Zary, Honzek, Pospisil, Coronato, Casey, Brzustewics, Poirer, Morin, Wolf, Kuznetsov, Solovyov is a solid and balanced pool to kick off the retool with.

With that being said I also wouldn’t be mad with a Hanifin extension. He will age like wine and really rounds out a solid top 4 for the next 4-5 seasons with Weegar, Andersson, and Kylington.

Excited to see what the return for Tanev is.

[DylanScores]

Why would we give up a Hanifin for picks to acquire “D prospect” when you already have a good D player in Hanifin.
I think Hanifin, Anderson , Weegar are great top 3/4.
Get D from the waivers just like they did with Paschal who are buried in someone else’s depth chart for cheap and use the picks to acquire game breakers which the team doesn’t currently have.

[bzoo02]

Originally Posted by butterfly

What was he going to do, hold out? The contract bought up prime UFA years, and no decline years. Great trade and extensions.



You open windows to compete when you underpay people like Lindholm and Hanifin. Unfortunately it didn’t work out this time, so let’s move on.



I mean if Boston is paying Forbort $3M and it’s so hard to find players like Hanifin, imagine what we could get from a team who needs one. With retention he’d be cheaper than Forbort.

I'm guessing Kylington's next contract will be exactly this. An underpay, a show-us type contract over 2-3 years.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by bzoo02

I'm guessing Kylington's next contract will be exactly this. An underpay, a show-us type contract over 2-3 years.

OK will never leave Calgary by choice. The respect and love for this organization is at a different level for him.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by Sec214

OK will never leave Calgary by choice. The respect and love for this organization is at a different level for him.

It's Micheal Stone times a factor of 2