Israel declares war on Hamas

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

If that is genocide, what do you call what the Palestinian government wants to do to jews or Israelis? Or for that matter, Hamas does to their own citizens?

Hamas deserves what they are getting and I hope Palestinians are smarter than you and help get rid of them.

Why do you even bother asking that question?

Look at how the usual suspects responded to the UNRWA allegations.

Ignore, spin, move on and fast as possible and hope everyone forgets. You think they're going to be pragmatic about the issue at all? Its literally not worth the discussion, and best served to put them all on ignore.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

If that is genocide, what do you call what the Palestinian government wants to do to jews or Israelis? Or for that matter, Hamas does to their own citizens?

Hamas deserves what they are getting and I hope Palestinians are smarter than you and help get rid of them.

But in the mean time they should be happy with starving, homeless, and hoping a bomb doesn't blow them up every minute of every day and night. When Israel decides they've gone far enough this time, the Palestinians can they spend the next decade cleaning up the rubble pile that was their home and community, hopefully not finding to many corpses of children while they do it. Then they should thank Israel for the service, right? Certainly not harbour long term anger and hatred that might lead them to doing something desperate, like lashing out, attacking and taking hostages. Because that might lead to some sort of cycle...


Like, you realize how dumb this is, right?

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

But in the mean time they should be happy with starving, homeless, and hoping a bomb doesn't blow them up every minute of every day and night. When Israel decides they've gone far enough this time, the Palestinians can they spend the next decade cleaning up the rubble pile that was their home and community, hopefully not finding to many corpses of children while they do it. Then they should thank Israel for the service, right? Certainly not harbour long term anger and hatred that might lead them to doing something desperate, like lashing out, attacking and taking hostages. Because that might lead to some sort of cycle...


Like, you realize how dumb this is, right?

Nothing could be worse for Israel then the status quo pre October 7th. The worst case scenario is that it takes the militants decades to rebuild again and Israel gets a break. The best case scenario is that the Gazans learn from the mistakes and accept that they will not win a war via force and negotiate a peace deal.

This idea that defeated nations only ever strive for eternal revenge is baseless. History is full of armed conflicts that resulted in long lasting peace afterwards. If the scenario you're talking about comes around, how is that worse than what was already happening in Gaza. You had Hamas training entire generations of school children that they would reach heaven if they dismembered a Jewish teenager or senior citizen.

October 7 removed all doubt about the intentions of Hamas.

[Fuzz]

Welcome to exhibit one of missing the point.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by Azure

Why do you even bother asking that question?

Look at how the usual suspects responded to the UNRWA allegations.

Ignore, spin, move on and fast as possible and hope everyone forgets. You think they're going to be pragmatic about the issue at all? Its literally not worth the discussion, and best served to put them all on ignore.

You are correct, truly disgusting they use this site to spread such vile garbage.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

If that is genocide, what do you call what the Palestinian government wants to do to jews or Israelis? Or for that matter, Hamas does to their own citizens?

Hamas deserves what they are getting and I hope Palestinians are smarter than you and help get rid of them.

Wanting to commit genocide and actively commiting genocide are two drastically different things lol.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Wanting to commit genocide and actively commiting genocide are two drastically different things lol.

It’s also just a terrible way to justify genocide.

“Well, if THIS is genocide what do you call what those terrorists WANT?”

“Also genocide.”

“… stop spreading vile garbage!”

Like, honestly, what did Nage expect was coming next? What was the angle that was going to make genocide justifiable? “Well we’re just beating them to the punch!” … great?

But don’t worry, on top of that striking point, blankall is here to remind us that “Hamas bad” and Azure wants everyone to know he has everyone on ignore. We’re dealing with the best and brightest here.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Wanting to commit genocide and actively commiting genocide are two drastically different things lol.

Sounds like war.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Wanting to commit genocide and actively commiting genocide are two drastically different things lol.

This is a terrible take. One side's entire existence is to weaponize and oppress their own people to hate Jews, including brainwashing children to want to murder. They have shot rockets for twenty straight years and soon won’t be able to. That seems like justice.

Israel didn’t choose this fight, Iran, Hamas and other global terror sponsors did. And you let them off the hook with your poor takes.

Israel isn’t committing genocide, it is a ludicrous take requiring massive amounts of misinformation and changing the meaning of words. Hamas the entire time could end this war by surrendering and returning hostages. They are the government of Gaza and are paying the price for weaponizing their population and infrastructure. This infection rotting so many brains (your take and others in this thread) don’t end with Israel. Across north Africa and many other regions are atrocities by other groups like Hamas that unfortunately, the victims can’t defend themselves as Israel can. These real genocides are what would happen to Israel if many posters here had their way.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

You are correct, truly disgusting they use this site to spread such vile garbage.

Keeps spouting about vile garbage yet can't point out what it is.

Do you find the slaughter of newborns, infants, children and many others as a result of indiscriminate bombing vile and disgusting?
Do you find the execution of civilians waving white flags vile and disgusting?
The mass starvation of hundreds of thousands? That vile and disgusting to you?

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

Israel isn’t committing genocide, it is a ludicrous take requiring massive amounts of misinformation and changing the meaning of words.

Please share your inner workings of your mind that leads you to believe this. Because quite frankly.

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

This is a terrible take.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

Sounds like war.

Bingo,

A war waged by the ruling elected government of Gaza

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

This is a terrible take. One side's entire existence is to weaponize and oppress their own people to hate Jews, including brainwashing children to want to murder. They have shot rockets for twenty straight years and soon won’t be able to. That seems like justice.

Israel didn’t choose this fight, Iran, Hamas and other global terror sponsors did. And you let them off the hook with your poor takes.

Israel isn’t committing genocide, it is a ludicrous take requiring massive amounts of misinformation and changing the meaning of words. Hamas the entire time could end this war by surrendering and returning hostages. They are the government of Gaza and are paying the price for weaponizing their population and infrastructure. This infection rotting so many brains (your take and others in this thread) don’t end with Israel. Across north Africa and many other regions are atrocities by other groups like Hamas that unfortunately, the victims can’t defend themselves as Israel can. These real genocides are what would happen to Israel if many posters here had their way.

The idea that it's acceptable for Israel to kill tens of thousands of civilians in Gaza (collateral damage or not) in response to the actions of Hamas is... a far worse take than any take you're criticizing.

The children of Gaza are indoctrinated by Hamas propaganda before they've even had a chance to develop critical thinking skills. That somehow means Hamas' actions are their fault and... it's no big deal if those children die?

Not sure how many times this has to be repeated before it gets through but... Hamas was elected 18 years ago without majority vote; they have not allowed another election since, and only a tiny fraction of the people who voted for Hamas are still alive today. So no, I don't believe the population of Gaza should be held responsible for the actions of Hamas.

Upon reading through this thread, one thing that stands out to me is that the defenders of Israel seemingly have no idea what it's like to be oppressed and mistreated to the point where you've been stripped of all self-autonomy and self-determination. If that's the existence you're trapped in, at some point you will develop feelings of vengeance against the people keeping their feet firmly planted on your throats.

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There's a genocide taking place, but I'd argue it hasn't just been taking place since October 8, 2023... it's been taking place since 1948.

Isreal has chosen this fight, because simply put you can only treat people like absolute garbage, repress them, and force them from their homes for so long, before those people decide that they're tired of bending over and taking it.

[_Q_]

Beninho, Nage et. al - if mental gymnastics were an Olympic sport, you two would be disqualified for being professionals.

The ICJ thinks that Israel is plausibly committing genocide, yet it's ludicrous to believe Israel is committing genocide???? Come on.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by _Q_

Beninho, Nage et. al - if mental gymnastics were an Olympic sport, you two would be disqualified for being professionals.

The ICJ thinks that Israel is plausibly committing genocide, yet it's ludicrous to believe Israel is committing genocide???? Come on.

You mean the same ruling that did not even call for a ceasefire?

Interesting, if they declared a genocide was occurring why not call for a ceasefire. Regardless i don’t feel like arguing in a thread where people choose to have selective outrage.

Funny how there is no thread on War in Yemen or Genocide in Sudan. No one cares when Muslims kill Muslims or Arabs kill Arabs. People get very up in arms when Israel responds to being attacked.
There is no discussion possible, I don’t debate people who pervert the word genocide to fit their narrative.
No Jews no News.

[_Q_]

Originally Posted by Beninho

You mean the same ruling that did not even call for a ceasefire?

Interesting, if they declared a genocide was occurring why not call for a ceasefire. Regardless i don’t feel like arguing in a thread where people choose to have selective outrage.

Funny how there is no thread on War in Yemen or Genocide in Sudan. No one cares when Muslims kill Muslims or Arabs kill Arabs. People get very up on Arms when Israel responds to being attacked.

No Jews no News.

You do realize that they weren't asked to rule on whether a genocide was occurring right? They essentially ruled that Israel is probably committing genocide and to stop, you know, genociding.

Your whataboutism is such a garbage argument and it's embarrassing that you think it works. Go start a thread regarding other wars if it's so important to you.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by _Q_

You do realize that they weren't asked to rule on whether a genocide was occurring right? They essentially ruled that Israel is probably committing genocide and to stop, you know, genociding.

Your whataboutism is such a garbage argument and it's embarrassing that you think it works. Go start a thread regarding other wars if it's so important to you.

I’m not going to argue with someone who doesn’t believe Jews should have their own state.

[_Q_]

Originally Posted by Beninho

I’m not going to argue with someone who doesn’t believe Jews should have their own state.

Is that supposed to be insulting? No loss to me dude.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by _Q_

Is that supposed to be insulting? No loss to me dude.

No not at all, just a good reminder of why peace is so far away. Your views are typical

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

Sounds like war.

Sounds like a systemic and planned genocide.

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