Official WWE/ECW/WCW/TNA talk, or whatever v2

[Ozy_Flame]

Yeah that's a "back away slowly" angle. No one has ever, in the history of wrestling, paid to see Mike Bennett and Matt Taven, a one-legged Adam Cole, or a teenage skater Wardlow.

Hell, even Roddy with ADAMMMMMM and a ####ty moustache is going to draw better than what this is.

Kill it with fire.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Yeah that's a "back away slowly" angle. No one has ever, in the history of wrestling, paid to see Mike Bennett and Matt Taven, a one-legged Adam Cole, or a teenage skater Wardlow.

Hell, even Roddy with ADAMMMMMM and a ####ty moustache is going to draw better than what this is.

Kill it with fire.

I wish KOR was healthy enough for him and Fish to comeback and kick Bennett and Taven out of the group. At least they'd be a bit more credible at that point.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I'm still gonna impotently bitch about it online. Isn't that this board's entire reason for existing?

Touche.

I just think AEW is enjoyable for what it is. As long as I'm never invested in the story, the wrestling is nice to watch.


Edit- I laugh every time the forum censors Takeshita's name

[trackercowe]

One thing I don't understand is why has Danielson been relegated to Collision? He's probably their biggest (and best) name on the roster. Why keep him off the main show? I only am able to watch Dynamite, so I rarely get the opportunity to see him in action.

If they had a brand split I would understand, but why waste him on the B show most weeks?

The wrestling yesterday was pretty good (Wardlow's match aside). Yet they continue to make headscratching decisions. I still don't understand how Page/Swerve are "level" when Swerve won both high profile matches. Why bring back the ranking system when they're almost inconsequential?

Swerve needs a long run as champion, until MJF returns to get the belt back. They should have made Swerve and his minions "The Devil". I agree that The Kingdom storyline isn't very interesting, and Adam Cole works better as a manager these days.

[Ozy_Flame]

He's choosing to be on Collision. He spends more time with his family during the week.

Saturday nights are alright for fighting, in his books.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

One thing I don't understand is why has Danielson been relegated to Collision? He's probably their biggest (and best) name on the roster. Why keep him off the main show? I only am able to watch Dynamite, so I rarely get the opportunity to see him in action.

If they had a brand split I would understand, but why waste him on the B show most weeks?

The wrestling yesterday was pretty good (Wardlow's match aside). Yet they continue to make headscratching decisions. I still don't understand how Page/Swerve are "level" when Swerve won both high profile matches. Why bring back the ranking system when they're almost inconsequential?

Swerve needs a long run as champion, until MJF returns to get the belt back. They should have made Swerve and his minions "The Devil". I agree that The Kingdom storyline isn't very interesting, and Adam Cole works better as a manager these days.

Swerve would have been a pretty good Swerve as the Devil TBH

Could have angled it as MJF being the "Old Devil" but that he got soft and lost sight of the goal, and that Swerve was taking his spot.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

The wrestling yesterday was pretty good (Wardlow's match aside). Yet they continue to make headscratching decisions. I still don't understand how Page/Swerve are "level" when Swerve won both high profile matches. Why bring back the ranking system when they're almost inconsequential?

Well first of all, Swerve is ahead of Hangman in the rankings. Second, the rankings are supposed to be fresh as of 2024. They're not taking into account what happened prior to bringing them back, which is the right call, IMO. Third, Swerve and Hangman have already had two absolute bangers, so I'm fully onboard with a third match.

[SuperMatt18]

I do think it's a bit foolish for a guy to beat another guy twice recently and then have a third match to determine number 1 contender

[d_phaneuf]

Laurinaitis referring to himself as another victim of Vinces means hes gonna give up everything

[Muta]

I think Swerve is an unreal talent (and just on fire right now, the crowds love him)… but I’m also a huge Joe fan and want to see him hold the title for several months. Absolutely no problem if Joe loses to Swerve, but do it in the summer; give Joe a monster run here, it will likely be his last.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Muta

I think Swerve is an unreal talent (and just on fire right now, the crowds love him)… but I’m also a huge Joe fan and want to see him hold the title for several months. Absolutely no problem if Joe loses to Swerve, but do it in the summer; give Joe a monster run here, it will likely be his last.

Yup, Joe needs an extended run as an unbeatable monster. Swerve, an anti-hero, and Hangman, the people's man, could look like absolute stars here.

Would be cool to see a returning name slide up the middle last minute as a third challenger, such as a returning Omega or Cole, or possibly even giving Danielson the title that should happen at some point.

Actually now that I think about it, one final Danielson/Joe feud would be one for the ages and both would deliver.

[SuperMatt18]

Danielson should have been his first fued IMO

Danielson isn't really hurt by a loss to Joe at all.

Joe could come off looking like a monster vs Danielson.

Having either Joe lose to Hangman/Swerve or Hangman/Swerve lose to Joe feels like bad booking no matter what happens.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Having either Joe lose to Hangman/Swerve or Hangman/Swerve lose to Joe feels like bad booking no matter what happens.

Hangman losing doesn't actually hurt. His thing has always been growing and coming back and being better. Going against Joe and realizing he isn't able to beat someone like Joe right now, building back up and fighting the monster successfully a second time is a perfectly appropriate story if done right.

[Ozy_Flame]

Why would Hangman or Swerve losing to Joe hurt? He's supposed to have a monster run. Hangman and Swerve are also in line to eventually hold that title, so they'd get the rub to down Joe when the time is right?

I'm not sure how that's bad booking.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Why would Hangman or Swerve losing to Joe hurt? He's supposed to have a monster run. Hangman and Swerve are also in line to eventually hold that title, so they'd get the rub to down Joe when the time is right?

I'm not sure how that's bad booking.

I think it could hurt Swerve who you want to have an ascent, not a rocky road. I think Hangman is perfectly fine. I think the point some people are making is feed an established star on the same level as Joe to him first so it makes the younger guys look even more impressive.

[SuperMatt18]

But in order for Hangman to get the shot now he has to beat Swerve...so that gives Swerve a loss

And I feel like Hangman has lost too many feuds lately to now lose to Joe.

I think they should just be building both those guys longer term and a shot now is unnecessary.

[SuperMatt18]

WWE and Rock are actually messing this up IMO

Last year in LA was the time for Rock vs Roman at Wrestlemania. You had the bloodline fued with Sami and the dissent within the bloodline and the "elders" sending Solo.

But Rock couldn't get in shape or whatever.

Now I feel like this whole thing actually neuters Cody a bit, doesn't actually make a ton of sense to do right now, and wastes a year of building to this for Cody.

Might be interesting to see how fans in Philly react though...they were the ones that boo'd Roman and Rock out of the building at that one Royal Rumble

[SuperMatt18]

Part of me does wonder if HHH and the Rock have a plan here maybe and this is a swerve

WM10: the double main even of Lex Luger and Bret Hart facing Yokozuna, and Bret won the match and finished what was a year long story.

WM20: Benoit was a bit of a surprise to beat HHH and Shawn in the main event to win the title and had a similar story where people weren't quite sure why Shawn was added to the main event.

WM30: Bryan beats HHH and then Orton and Bautista to close the story of the Yes movement.

I'm not sure WWE expected as much negative reaction as they've gotten tonight...but I also don't think anyone believes that Rock and Roman can actually work a convincing WM main event...and wonder if there is a bit of a swerve here where somehow Cody gets added.

[mile]

I still think it's going to be Cody vs Roman at WM somehow, we're getting worked. They gotta keep the next 2 months interesting

[trackercowe]

I don't like it either, but they would be insane to turn down a big money match like Rock/Reigns. Hardcore fans will hate it, but it'll draw huge for the casual viewer. Dwayne is (by far) the biggest star to come out of the wrestling business. If he wants to have one final match at Mania, how could they possibly say no to him?

I enjoy the unpredictability about it as well, as with Rhodes 2.0 the outcome would have been all but a formality. That and we saw the same feud last year... Rhodes needs the belt to finish the story. Why does it necessarily need to be against Reigns? That being said they did Rhodes dirty in this situation. Good on him for being a company man. I think he realizes his turn as the #1 star in the company is coming. The Reigns era is likely coming to an end in the next few months. Cody has a good 5-10 years still ahead of him.

One thing is that I hope we see Rock and Reigns on television more often. It's not going to work if they only show 2-3 times before Mania. At least one of them needs to be on the show week to week. With The Rock now being part of TKO I bet he'll ensure both of them are on the shows more often.

We can't forget WrestleMania is more of a spectacle than a wrestling show. They want to have starpower, and now they have that.