2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Hockey_Ninja]

This is definitely the most exciting trade deadline in a while for the Flames I can remember. I think Conny will make the right moves for the future of the team…..or he’ll become public enemy #1 on here. It can go either way honestly

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

This is definitely the most exciting trade deadline in a while for the Flames I can remember. I think Conny will make the right moves for the future of the team…..or he’ll become public enemy #1 on here. It can go either way honestly

No matter what happens it will go either way. Some will be happy. Some won’t

[Mr.Coffee]

This is a crucial deadline for Calgary, they gotta blow it up. Can’t imagine Flames fans and how they’d feel if they don’t.

[browna]

The returns won't be enough for some.
For some, it may be too many magic beans or unproven talent.

We could get two high first rounders and they could turn into the next Monahan and Bennett in 3-4 years.

My guess is they seriously consider holding onto one (Tanev) or two players (Hanifin) and Markstrom rumors is just media with too much time and the need to deliver hot takes and juicy rumors to get views and clicks.

Anyone not a UFA is not a good TD trade as you'll get more for them in offseason (Mangipane).

[Mr.Coffee]

Honestly I am starting to care much less about returns and just show me that they understand the direction the team needs to go in.

Because I’m not sure they understand that yet. Which if true is shocking and depressing. Even if it is ol Murr calling the shots. Like, please, for the love of god, come to your senses here.

[FBI]

Originally Posted by browna

The returns won't be enough for some.
For some, it may be too many magic beans or unproven talent.

We could get two high first rounders and they could turn into the next Monahan and Bennett in 3-4 years.

My guess is they seriously consider holding onto one (Tanev) or two players (Hanifin) and Markstrom rumors is just media with too much time and the need to deliver hot takes and juicy rumors to get views and clicks.

Anyone not a UFA is not a good TD trade as you'll get more for them in offseason (Mangipane).

Sweet maybe we’ll keep them this time!

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by browna

The returns won't be enough for some.

With that ridiculous Athletic article setting expectations, yes, the returns aren't going to be enough. The pitchforks will be out for Conroy thanks to the fine journalistic work by Pronman and McKenzie.

[Ped]

While I don't think Lindholm will get as much as many hope, it only takes one GM who is willing to break the bank (eg TB with Jeannot)

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Ped

While I don't think Lindholm will get as much as many hope, it only takes one GM who is willing to break the bank (eg TB with Jeannot)

Jeannot got a good return because he was cheap and had team control. Much like Hagel, his team was not looking to move him.

Lindholm is a UFA without any team control.

Jeannot is not a comparable.

With Lindholm, we hope that a number of teams believe he can be a difference maker and will increase their bids.

There should be a number of teams bidding that is certain. Will one overbid and give what we hope to be a first and a very good prospect?

Time will tell.

[Ped]

Jeannot is not a comparable for situation, but it is an example of a GM overpaying for what he thought his team needed, and was a right fit. Hagel got 2 1sts and 2 young payers who at this point are bottom-6 guys. Jeannot got 5 fdraft picks and a 5/6/7 guy in a move that was almost universally viewed as an overpayment at the time.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by browna

The returns won't be enough for some.
For some, it may be too many magic beans or unproven talent.

We could get two high first rounders and they could turn into the next Monahan and Bennett in 3-4 years.

My guess is they seriously consider holding onto one (Tanev) or two players (Hanifin) and Markstrom rumors is just media with too much time and the need to deliver hot takes and juicy rumors to get views and clicks.

Anyone not a UFA is not a good TD trade as you'll get more for them in offseason (Mangipane).

I get the vibe that this year is not going to be a lucrative one to be a seller and wouldn't be shocked if the returns may not even meet my low expectations. That said the road to the Stanley Cup is as wide open as it's been in a long time and it only takes a very small handful of teams that feel it can be their year to drive the returns up so hoping to be pleasantly surprised.

[wired]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

Yes and the Flames are going to be bad for 3-5 years

When is the last time this team has actually been good? I mean consistently good? Seems we get one year of mildly entertaining hockey and two of utter trash, then one year of maybe they will do good, then they trip on the curb.
I have zero expectations that the flames ownership/management will do what is required to take the team to the next level. Yet I still cheer for them.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Jeannot got a good return because he was cheap and had team control. Much like Hagel, his team was not looking to move him.

Lindholm is a UFA without any team control.

Jeannot is not a comparable.

With Lindholm, we hope that a number of teams believe he can be a difference maker and will increase their bids.

There should be a number of teams bidding that is certain. Will one overbid and give what we hope to be a first and a very good prospect?

Time will tell.

Yeah Tampa liked young cheaper players they can use for a few yrs, Coleman, Hagel, Jeannot…

Lindholm doesn’t fit as he is looking for a retirement contract. Best for Lindholm is a rental auction

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by wired

When is the last time this team has actually been good? I mean consistently good? Seems we get one year of mildly entertaining hockey and two of utter trash, then one year of maybe they will do good, then they trip on the curb.
I have zero expectations that the flames ownership/management will do what is required to take the team to the next level. Yet I still cheer for them.

The Treliving era had the best core since the 89 cup but the wizard messed that up royally. That’s why they only had a couple of first round wins and tons of disappointments

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I don't think anyone will trade for Lindholm without the intention on trying to sign him to an extension.

Is that what you think or something you're hearing? I've heard it's the exact opposite. The teams that want him don't have the cap or willingness to sign lindholm. The current market is teams wiling to pay a rental price for a $2.3mil two way centre for a cup run.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I don't think anyone will trade for Lindholm without the intention on trying to sign him to an extension.

That should limit the number of bidders considerably. Few of the contenders will have that much cap space. Colorado won't, Dallas won't. Boston should have.

I think it's the exact opposite. At this stage, Lindholm may as well wait until UFA unless he gets exactly what he wants. Hopefully his demands have lessened.

[CalgarySames]

Get the trades done by the TDL, get pick and prospects back. Then offer a good package to Dallas for Logan Stankoven. If the Flames are looking to rebuild/retool/reset... Whatever they end up calling it, Stankoven would be a huge piece to build around! And could be a major piece to make sure our turnaround doesn't take long!

[Toonage]

Using Colorado as an example, some teams may want to shed cap for next year and include an additional pick even for a rental.

Thats why the Johansen idea gets brought up.

They give up him, a prospect and a first for Lindholm, retained.

[Heavy Jack]

I like Stankoven and was upset when we picked Stromgren over him but he’s not the level of prospect/player that would single handedly hasten a rebuild for Calgary. He’d be a guy a target as part of a package for Coleman next year if the Flames have another year of regression and Coleman is willing to move on at that point.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by CalgarySames

Get the trades done by the TDL, get pick and prospects back. Then offer a good package to Dallas for Logan Stankoven. If the Flames are looking to rebuild/retool/reset... Whatever they end up calling it, Stankoven would be a huge piece to build around! And could be a major piece to make sure our turnaround doesn't take long!

What would be Dallas' motivation to move Stankoven?

They love him as a prospect, and will help them save cap going forward. He's exactly the type of prospect then need to keep them relevant in a cap world.

I agree he's a great target, but Dallas is unlikely to move him.