Hart, McLeod, Dube, Foote, Formenton charged with sexual assault

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

Once more for the hard-of-reading or comprehension.

Not necessary.

[schteve_d]

Has the deadline to turn themselves in been made public?

I know that the police have scheduled a press conference for Monday, February 5th so it's presumably on that day or soon before.

That's a long time for the innocents in this to be officially cleared. Maybe they put it off as they are expecting more charges? There was allegedly three more people with involvement, if I'm not mistaken.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

If any of the rumored 5 were not being charged their agent certainly would have made a statement

You think Dube is on mental health leave and not involved , coincidentally at the same time as this , and his agent wouldn’t make a statement to the press saying Dube hasn’t been charged / isn’t involved ?

Seriously ? They put out a press statement saying it wasn’t substance abuse related , but would stay quiet on sexual assault rumours ?

Yeah, when this article strongly implies they are the 5, and has this quote, I don't think there is a whole lot of doubt.

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/...ssault-inquiry

Messages left for the agents representing all five players and multiple messages sent to Hart's lawyer seeking comment were not immediately returned.

In other athlete/celebrity legal issues, once they're charged, it is usually public. Is it a Canada thing, that they're not made public right away?

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

In other athlete/celebrity legal issues, once they're charged, it is usually public. Is it a Canada thing, that they're not made public right away?

According to reports they haven't been charged yet.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

Yeah, when this article strongly implies they are the 5, and has this quote, I don't think there is a whole lot of doubt.

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/...ssault-inquiry



In other athlete/celebrity legal issues, once they're charged, it is usually public. Is it a Canada thing, that they're not made public right away?

They have to get to London Ontario to be charged… they haven’t been arrested. Once arrested, they’ll have mug shots, a public record, a hearing (which if there is a publication ban I will just drive down there and take notes on the Statement of Facts and PM the details to all of you myself).

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Would be interested to see this. I recall thinking Dubé was silent when the story first surfaced and many players were immediately disassociating themselves from it. That said, I wasn’t following it very closely.

“Since the beginning I’ve cooperated in any way possible,” Dube said. “I will continue to do that. With it going on, I wish I could share more but that’s all I can share to this point.

“I would love to be transparent. I know that’s all I can really say on it to be honest. For me, I wish I could tell.”

https://dailyhive.com/calgary/flames...-investigation

[heep223]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

Once more for the hard-of-reading or comprehension: the players have NOT been named as of yet, and the public has ZERO right to know.

As of today, in reality it's all speculation.

While this is technically true. It’s also completely legitimate to assume it’s those five at this point. No need to be a dick about it.

[PaperBagger'14]

“ “Dillon did not engage in any wrongdoing, and he co-operated fully with the independent London Police Service investigation in 2018, through which all players were then cleared of any wrongdoing,” Dave Cowan, Dube’s agent, told the Toronto Star in July.”

Thanks Dave, we’ll see if the courts have a different definition of “wrongdoing”

[Ped]

Yes, it's entirely possible that the 5 on leave aren't the 5 getting charged - but very, very unlikely at this point.

[GullFoss]

I think it's increasingly likely Dube was the guy invited up for pizza, hung around for 10 minutes and then got out of there. I don't think he was involved in the raping.

He probably told investigators in 2018 as such and couldn't tell if it was consensual or not. Wrong place, wrong time, lack of judgement, lack of maturity.

[Ped]

Is there anything to base this on other than the fact that he plays for the Flames?

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

I think it's increasingly likely Dube was the guy invited up for pizza, hung around for 10 minutes and then got out of there. I don't think he was involved in the raping.

He probably told investigators in 2018 as such and couldn't tell if it was consensual or not. Wrong place, wrong time, lack of judgement, lack of maturity.

honest question: why do you think this is 'increasingly likely'?

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Ped

Is there anything to base this on other than the fact that he plays for the Flames?

Nooooooope.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

I think it's increasingly likely Dube was the guy invited up for pizza, hung around for 10 minutes and then got out of there. I don't think he was involved in the raping.

He probably told investigators in 2018 as such and couldn't tell if it was consensual or not. Wrong place, wrong time, lack of judgement, lack of maturity.

Everytime you write in this thread, you post something stupid. That's lot of posts, and a lot of stupid.

[StoneCole]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

“ “Dillon did not engage in any wrongdoing, and he co-operated fully with the independent London Police Service investigation in 2018, through which all players were then cleared of any wrongdoing,” Dave Cowan, Dube’s agent, told the Toronto Star in July.”

Thanks Dave, we’ll see if the courts have a different definition of “wrongdoing”

“He didn’t engage in ‘wrongdoing’. …oh by the way it was also decided none of them engaged in ‘wrongdoing’”

…it’s a creative way of saying he did nothing wrong because nothing wrong was done. It leaves the door open that he participated in something.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

I think it's increasingly likely Dube was the guy invited up for pizza, hung around for 10 minutes and then got out of there. I don't think he was involved in the raping.

He probably told investigators in 2018 as such and couldn't tell if it was consensual or not. Wrong place, wrong time, lack of judgement, lack of maturity.

I think it's increasingly likely that you - as everyone else here - know nothing about Dube's exact role in all of this.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Is it 5 plus the "pizza guy", or 5 with him?

Could the investigators be trying to build a stronger case against a couple from the testimony of others? Or is their case already made and the 5 are to being charged?

[Calgary4LIfe]

While I am keeping an open mind and avoiding pointing the finger at anyone until they are charged, his agent made me feel that Dube was indeed part of it, rather than assure us that he isn't.

“Dillon did not engage in any wrongdoing, and he co-operated fully with the independent London Police Service investigation in 2018, through which all players were then cleared of any wrongdoing,” Dave Cowan, Dube’s agent, told the Toronto Star in July.

So was Dube's wrongdoing different than the wrongdoing of everyone? It sounds more like everyone is grouped together.



Oh well, we will know soon enough I guess.

[Scornfire]

ya that Dave Cowen quote is peak smarmy lawyerspeak and erodes what little faith I had left that Dube didn't participate in any "Wrongdoing"

[devo22]

I honestly wouldn't read anything into those statements at all. Every single one of those is essentially hollow, meaningless legalese.