Ok Tories....time to scrap this program.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Not sure if many of you know this but the government fly's all new full time public servants out to Ottawa for an "orientation" to the public service.

Now, if you have ever seen a waste of tax dollars, this would qualify as one. I work for the federal government and I know how much of a waste this program really is. Since I have been the them for several years now, I have never gone to this orientation since it wasn't around when I started. But....I know many people (probably around 30-40 people) that have gone to this program and ever single one of them had nothing good to say about their trip. Everyone one of them agreed that it was a waste of money and had no practicle purpose for their jobs.

These people get sent out to Ottawa on full travel status, paid airfare, and put up in http://www.novotel.com/novotel/fiche...he_hotel.shtml
this hotel with the lowest rate at 179.00 per night. (I am sure they get some kind of discount, even $30 off a night would make it still expensive)

I encourage everyone to contact their MP and demand that this kind of waste is unacceptable.

I would expect a program like this from the Libs....but the Conservatives??? Come on people.....

Here is an article from the Sun about this.
http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/National...09909-sun.html

[Devils'Advocate]

Wow. Living in Ottawa, the courses are here so I didn't know that they were FLYING PEOPLE IN for the course. If the course was worthy then it would make more sense to fly the trainers OUT. I'm a systems developer for Statistics Canada. When we create a new system that is going to be used by the regions, we typically fly our testers/trainers out to the ROs. It just makes sense.

What do they cover in the course? Financial responsibilities (ie such-and-such expenditure must be approved by the director, while this-and-that must be approved by the DM)? Public Service Ethics (not allowed to accept freebies for private sector companies wishing to do business)? I know I was forced to take a useless course in financial spending to learn what I already knew - I have no authority to spend a dime of taxpayer money. But this was all part of the governments "renewing faith in the public service" program - after the Sponsorship scandal the governments brilliant plan was to spend buckets of money on useless courses and training materials to ensure that we peons don't go wasting money that we have no authority to have spent in the first place. And don't go saying that's just a typical Liberal response because the Conservatives have had plenty of time to stop this waste.

The sponsorship scandal wasted $100,000,000. The cost of Gomery was about $80,000,000. And every department is hiring more FI's (FInancial anaylists) to "ensure that government money isn't wasted". Flying people in to Ottawa for an "orientation" course is par for the course.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

And don't go saying that's just a typical Liberal response because the Conservatives have had plenty of time to stop this waste.

What??

I said I would expect it from a liberal government...not a conservative one. My post is criticizing the conervative government for such waste......what are you talking about here???????

[Devils'Advocate]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

What??

I said I would expect it from a liberal government...not a conservative one. My post is criticizing the conervative government for such waste......what are you talking about here???????

That wasn't in response to your statement, but rather a pre-emptive warning shot to anyone who would go there.

What I was saying was that the knee-jerk typical GOVERNMENT response to a scandal of wasted money would be to spend a LOT of money finding out who all was to blame, spend a LOT of money implementing smoke-and-mirrors "solutions" such as useless training courses, and spending a LOT of money hiring (IMO) unnecessary financial analysts.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

That wasn't in response to your statement, but rather a pre-emptive warning shot to anyone who would go there.

What I was saying was that the knee-jerk typical GOVERNMENT response to a scandal of wasted money would be to spend a LOT of money finding out who all was to blame, spend a LOT of money implementing smoke-and-mirrors "solutions" such as useless training courses, and spending a LOT of money hiring (IMO) unnecessary financial analysts.

Gotch ya....

thanks for the clarification.