[News] Flames place DeSimone and Ruzicka on waivers; Both claimed

[aiy_yah]

Originally Posted by Locke

Remember that time we were talking about not losing assets for nothing?

I remember.

Wonder if it means there was no trade to be had. For free, someone was willing to take a flyer.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Coyotes going to build a contender with Flames castoffs.

As usual the Flames have no idea what asset management is. Or how to assess talent for that matter.

lol just like Phillips and Zadorov being a #3 dman. Valimaki aslo isn't looking like much of a miss now.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by devo22

yeah, but if we end up trading Hanifin and Tanev, someone has to be out there ... granted, Oesterle is terrible and will help the tank, but having a RH option like DeSimone would have been preferable IMO.

I imagine there will be warm bodies coming back. I agree the Flames developing D is sparse - hopefully Kuznetsov, Solovyev and Poirier turn into something that can complement Weegar and Andersson. And hopefully Kylington gets into form.

I haven't heard any reports on Lyle or Aspirot but their numbers are OK.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by boogerz

Not surprised that Ruzicka was claimed. Valimaki has been a good 4/5 defenseman for the Yotes; they're probably hoping that they strike "gold" again with Ruzicka.




Very surprised that DeSimone was claimed. The Devils must be desperate

Gold...he has played 32 games and has one goal this season. Healthy scratch gold

[Southside403]

How much cap space did we gain from these claims?

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by aiy_yah

Wonder if it means there was no trade to be had. For free, someone was willing to take a flyer.

They weren't Flyers, they were Flames.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Bonded

lol just like Phillips and Zadorov being a #3 dman. Valimaki aslo isn't looking like much of a miss now.

Speaking of Zadorov benched after a big giveaway last night. 6th in ice time for D since they got their guys back. Hope his agent is happy.

I wish these players well but they were a dime a dozen

[habernac]

Originally Posted by Locke

Remember that time we were talking about not losing assets for nothing?

I remember.

They’re worth nothing. You couldn’t get a used bag of pucks for them.

[boogerz]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Arizona is spinning their wheels. And they have two Flames castoffs. One which they don't play on a regular basis and one which they probably will regret playing.

Ruzicka is an RFA with arb rights. So is Valimaki. Chances are decent they are not Coyotes next year.

Originally Posted by dino7c

Gold...he has played 32 games and has one goal this season. Healthy scratch gold

That is false. Valimaki is their 4/5 defenseman and has been solid defensively for them. He has a regular spot on their second pairing (ES) with Dumba or Stecher when he's not injured (such as the last two months)

[saillias]

I approve of Conroy's roster shuffling, there's no reason for a mid team to just stick to the same 13/7 players. They've revamped the 4th line because they didn't like its contributions lately which is what a proactive manager should do.

What's always frustrated me as a fan of the Flames is they usually have a conservative and static mindset about making these kinds of changes. The team out of training camp was probably going to be pretty close to the roster that ended the season. Maybe 1-2 callups all year. Conroy has given more Wranglers a shot in half a season than Treliving did in his entire tenure as GM

[1qqaaz]

The Flames only at 43 contracts. Been a while since I've seen it that low, this late into the season.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by boogerz

That is false. Valimaki is their 4/5 defenseman and has been solid defensively for them. He has a regular spot on their second pairing (ES) when he's not injured

Last season called they want their info back

[Phil Russell]

Healthy teams cycle these types of players out of the system when their time is up. They have no trade value. Opens spots for the young guys. Opens 1.5 million in cap space. Next.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by boogerz

That is false. Valimaki is their 4/5 defenseman and has been solid defensively for them. He has a regular spot on their second pairing (ES) when he's not injured

Not false. He's been a healthy scratch, including the last time the Flames played the Coyotes. He just got back in the lineup after being healthy scratched for 6 games. And he only got back because Stecher got hurt. He did manage his first point since Dec. 12 though.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Phil Russell

Healthy teams cycle these types of players out of the system when their time is up. They have no trade value. Opens spots for the young guys. Opens 1.5 million in cap space. Next.

This guy gets it

[devo22]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I imagine there will be warm bodies coming back. I agree the Flames developing D is sparse - hopefully Kuznetsov, Solovyev and Poirier turn into something that can complement Weegar and Andersson. And hopefully Kylington gets into form.

I haven't heard any reports on Lyle or Aspirot but their numbers are OK.

sure, especially with only sitting at 43 contracts (might also allow them to try and sign a college UFA or two), I'm sure there'd be players coming back. In the end, I think you're right that the question of having either DeSimone or Oesterle will matter very little, but in isolation, I think DeSimone is easily the better defenseman, plus a righty to boot. That's why it's still a bit disappointing to see him get waived and claimed while Oesterle stays, but it is what it is.

[Erick Estrada]

I'm with the consensus that DeSimone was more useful than Oesterle but in the big picture it's nothing to fuss over. I wouldn't be surprised if Ruzicka briefly pops for Arizona but it will be short lived because he's a guy that simply doesn't bring a high effort on a consistent basis which is a shame because he does have some talent but teams can't wait forever and it was time to cut bait.

[memphusk]

This is what a watered down league looks like. Players like this will come and go like a fart in the wind.

[Buff]

I'm completely shocked at both players being claimed. Though I suppose with NJ losing 2 dmen yesterday I should have seen it coming with DeSimone

Losing these guys is no loss.

[boogerz]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Not false. He's been a healthy scratch, including the last time the Flames played the Coyotes. He just got back in the lineup after being healthy scratched for 6 games. And he only got back because Stecher got hurt. He did manage his first point since Dec. 12 though.

He was scratched for six games after getting rocked in the head by Nick Cousins, which was his third game back after missing time from his facial injury. That's why he hasn't played much. It's not because he's an actual healthy scratch.

When he's in the lineup, he's regularly playing second pairing ES minutes with Dumba or Stecher as his partner.


It's weird how some of y'all are still butthurt about Valimaki doing pretty good on another team.