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Old 01-23-2024, 12:09 PM   #12881
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Sooooo, you can't exactly name a Biden policy or one of the "major people" speaking against it.

Inflation is down, jobs are up in the US.
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Old 01-23-2024, 12:22 PM   #12882
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Are we being disingenuous and pretending progressive criticisms of the democratic nominee matter? Fun!
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Old 01-23-2024, 12:24 PM   #12883
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Republicans have policies? Have they passed a law that actually helps the country in over a year? A decade? Two sets of rules. There is no winning in any campaign run by the Democrats at this point. Their only hope is for a few americans to finally pull their heads out of their asses and realize they have been duped for decades.
You are correct. The GOP has been largely useless in both the House & Senate, and even internal GOP members would agree with this.

However, they are not the party in charge, so voters won't hold them accountable in regards to policies.

Similar to the Liberals here in Canada. With immigration as an example, the CPC isn't exactly coming out and being strong on the issue over what needs to be done. In fact they are likely not that different from the Liberals, and PP has dodged a lot of immigration questions.

But they benefit because they are not SEEN as the party that has wrecked our country with immigration policies.

Voting candidates out versus voting them in type of deal.
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Those old articles don't quite say what you think.
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Old 01-23-2024, 12:28 PM   #12885
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Older/religious women vote, what else is there for them to do?
Not show up thinking Trump will win. Something voters did thinking the Republicans will get the Red Wave.
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Sooooo, you can't exactly name a Biden policy or one of the "major people" speaking against it.

Inflation is down, jobs are up in the US.
Maybe the most powerful banker in the world?

Directly speaking about Biden immigration policies.


Directly speaking about some Trump policies that he sees as beneficial to the US & irrational MAGA stupidity.


You can also find videos from the WEF meetings where leaders talked about US debt load which has gone crazy the last few years under Biden, and many others questioning other policies.

The idea that everyone sees Biden = Good / Trump = Bad is not true, and going into the election thinking like that is going to be a major mistake from the Democrats.
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You are correct. The GOP has been largely useless in both the House & Senate, and even internal GOP members would agree with this.

However, they are not the party in charge, so voters won't hold them accountable in regards to policies.

Similar to the Liberals here in Canada. With immigration as an example, the CPC isn't exactly coming out and being strong on the issue over what needs to be done. In fact they are likely not that different from the Liberals, and PP has dodged a lot of immigration questions.

But they benefit because they are not SEEN as the party that has wrecked our country with immigration policies.

Voting candidates out versus voting them in type of deal.
The GOP are in charge of the House. They have done sweet FA. And the GOP can veto any major vote in the Senate. In fact the Republicans have more party members in the Senate but because of Sanders and King who caucus with the Dems, the Dems are technically the majority party.
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We can disagree on who will win, but I hope we agree (maybe not unanimously) that if Trump wins the U.S. is f’d. There will be severe ramifications for the rest of the world (Ukraine, for one, and Canada). Biden had better win.
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You are correct. The GOP has been largely useless in both the House & Senate, and even internal GOP members would agree with this.

However, they are not the party in charge, so voters won't hold them accountable in regards to policies.

Similar to the Liberals here in Canada. With immigration as an example, the CPC isn't exactly coming out and being strong on the issue over what needs to be done. In fact they are likely not that different from the Liberals, and PP has dodged a lot of immigration questions.

But they benefit because they are not SEEN as the party that has wrecked our country with immigration policies.

Voting candidates out versus voting them in type of deal.
Partially true. They still have a lot of power because of the house and have held up countless bills just because. They also did not pass anything of meaning while they held all three wings. I mean, the whole Tuberville #### is beyond ridiculous. If a dem did that there would be riots. Beyond hypocritical.

I do agree about voting out who you don't want. See it all of the time and it never works out well.
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You can also find videos from the WEF meetings where leaders talked about US debt load which has gone crazy the last few years under Biden, and many others questioning other policies.
That seems like a weird criticism. Even if you remove the increases in debt during crisis situations (08-09, COVID, etc.) for Trump and Bush, the increase in debt under Biden has been the lowest since Clinton. And Clinton was the lowest since Nixon. So in the last 50 years, the growth in Federal Debt under Biden has been the 2nd slowest of any President.
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That seems like a weird criticism. Even if you remove the increases in debt during crisis situations (08-09, COVID, etc.) for Trump and Bush, the increase in debt under Biden has been the lowest since Clinton. And Clinton was the lowest since Nixon. So in the last 50 years, the growth in Federal Debt under Biden has been the 2nd slowest of any President.
Yet somehow the myth that Republicans are fiscally responsible continues. Even before the pandemic the deficit was way up under Trump because of tax cuts for the rich and corporations.

Even immigration there's only so much Biden could do under the law, as always Congress needs to act but Republicans have publicly said that doing anything about the border is a non-starter as that would help Biden for the election.
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Sooooo, you can't exactly name a Biden policy or one of the "major people" speaking against it.

Inflation is down, jobs are up in the US.
I don't know how many times I've heard people casually say FJB inflation when complaining about prices. It may be a dog whistle, or gaslighting, but people do say it over and over enough that enough people think it's true.

Inflation being down, doesn't mean prices are down. I have a positive view about how his administration and the Fed have so far thread the needle of curbing inflation without tanking the economy. But that's too nuanced for too many voters.

The perception of the economy under Biden is his by far his biggest problem right now. He also was put in a no-win situation in current world events that he was bound to piss off half his supporters on whichever avenue he took.

That's all probably the best reason for him to step aside. He's carrying too much baggage from these events.
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My only thought for the democrats is to find your most charismatic, acid-tongued guy and work on humiliating Trump with sarcasm and humor to embarrass him. That, sadly, is a long-shot, too. I don't think Biden can take him if the election were to be tomorrow. So that's a loss. That requires somebody else, so let's find that guy (and I do mean guy...white guy, specifically. the voters in that country are not mentally equipped to vote for a woman or a non-white...Trump will eat them for lunch).
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That seems like a weird criticism. Even if you remove the increases in debt during crisis situations (08-09, COVID, etc.) for Trump and Bush, the increase in debt under Biden has been the lowest since Clinton. And Clinton was the lowest since Nixon. So in the last 50 years, the growth in Federal Debt under Biden has been the 2nd slowest of any President.
And if you look at what the US spends on interest to manage the debt, it has gone crazy the past few years, in large part to rising interest rates. Which of course is understandable, but also concerning long-term especially if rates don't come back down.

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This huge increase is due in part to the $9.5 trillion increase in debt held by the public between the beginning of 2020 and the end of 2023. But it is also due to much higher interest rates. Newly issued ten-year Treasury Notes paid an average of 3.8 percent in fiscal year (FY) 2023, compared to 2.4 percent in 2019 and 1.1 percent in 2020. Newly issued three-month Treasury Bills paid an average yield of 5.0 percent in 2023, compared to 2.3 percent in 2019 and 0.7 percent in 2020. Rates today are even higher.

At $659 billion, interest was the fourth largest government program in 2023, exceeded only by Social Security, Medicare, and defense. The federal government spent significantly more on interest than all spending on children. Interest costs also exceeded spending on Medicaid, veterans, food and nutrition services, and more.
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So again, easy to see how the current debt load, unease in the markets and the economy not being as stellar as everyone thinks it should be, is a concern.
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I don't know how many times I've heard people casually say FJB inflation when complaining about prices. It may be a dog whistle, or gaslighting, but people do say it over and over enough that enough people think it's true.

Inflation being down, doesn't mean prices are down. I have a positive view about how his administration and the Fed have so far thread the needle of curbing inflation without tanking the economy. But that's too nuanced for too many voters.

The perception of the economy under Biden is his by far his biggest problem right now. He also was put in a no-win situation in current world events that he was bound to piss off half his supporters on whichever avenue he took.

That's all probably the best reason for him to step aside. He's carrying too much baggage from these events.
And as politicians go, all they have to do is say 'hey look at all those problems' without offering any kind of solution and people will vote for them.

Like I pointed out earlier, the immigration crisis here in Canada is a perfect example. The Liberals are scum for what they did, and should be booted out tomorrow, but its not like any other party is offering a better solution.

However, that is also no reason NOT to remove a party, as politicians should know they are accountable to the voters.
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Republicans have rolled back child labour laws. That's a win right?
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