2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[stemit14]

Zegras reminds me a lot of TJ Oshie when he was a young player in the league with St. Louis. Always good for a highlight reel goal a few times a year and often struggled to stay healthy. Was originally thought to develop into a franchise player because of his skill set but ended up being a valuable complimentary piece to Washington once he was traded. He also developed a bit of a physical side to his game as he got older but I would not anticipate that to happen with Zegras.

Point being he seems like he could be a very valuable player for a team but I don’t see him as a franchise player down the line. Just a valuable complimentary piece that can quarterback a powerplay.

[stemit14]

Not that it really means anything but I noticed that TSN’s trade bait board has Lindholm and Tanev at the top but Hanifin is down to 7th. Is he lower on the board simply because there’s a chance the flames re-sign him instead of trading him? I would think based on value alone he would in the top 3 on the list.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Fair. I just don’t believe in him at all for the playoffs.

He was great against Dallas, not as good against Edmonton. Great for Vancouver against St. Louis.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Not that it really means anything but I noticed that TSN’s trade bait board has Lindholm and Tanev at the top but Hanifin is down to 7th. Is he lower on the board simply because there’s a chance the flames re-sign him instead of trading him? I would think based on value alone he would in the top 3 on the list.

It's more of a "Players to Watch" kind of thing - a combination of value and likelihood to be moved.

I would agree that if it were purely value, then Hanifin would be higher up. So would a guy like Zegras.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Great for Vancouver against St. Louis.

That's high praise and an understatement,

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by bluejays

I still think it’s a fair stat from the perspective that all goaltenders have those same obstacles. If you have a good sample it’s telling something. Where I can see a hole poked in it is the amount of quality chances differing team to team. Stronger defences could have more outside or clear shots for their goaltender. Some of those other goaltenders this year aren’t playing up to par. But with Markstroms recent history of not performing in the playoffs, I’m skeptical, that’s all.

Brian Elliott and Jake Allen were elite save percentage goalies under Ken Hitchcock. They withered when they left him.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Colorado is more worried about now than years to come

I think you have a higher view of Zegras than I do, there is a reason the Ducks management aren't huge fans

It has nothing to do with Ducks management not being fans, it's the player not a fan of the GM or the organization. He got a sour taste in his mouth after contract negotiations and hates Verbeek. This isn't the Ducks wanting to move in from him, this is him wanting out of Anaheim.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Bingo

He was great against Dallas, not as good against Edmonton. Great for Vancouver against St. Louis.

and against Minny

got injured against Vegas, after facing a ridiculous amount of shots

[dissentowner]

Also, I do have a higher opinion of Zegras then many do here. He was putting up better numbers than Lindholm playing with really crappy players. I think his ceiling is 90 + points every year as he matures. Who cares if he isn't a defensive centre, there are plenty of those to go around. If the cost is the same Zegras over Lindholm is a no brainer, maybe Lindholm is the better playoff piece for this year but the Avs are not going all in this year only and then tearing it down, you want to have a sustained contention window.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Bingo

He was great against Dallas, not as good against Edmonton. Great for Vancouver against St. Louis.

Won the series

The panic that set in when he missed a playoff game and demko was going to start should show that by itself

[Red Potato Standing By]

Originally Posted by Bingo

He was great against Dallas, not as good against Edmonton. Great for Vancouver against St. Louis.

People seem to like to ignore that Dallas series and just bring up the Edmonton one.

[SuperMatt18]

And even in the Edmonton series...he needed to be better...but I feel like if we looked back at the ratio of quality shots vs soft shots that series it was tough.

They gave up very little zone time and shot volume, and it felt like most shots were odd man rushes.

There were still a couple goals he would have wanted back that hurt the team, but the whole team really played into the Oilers quick strike approach and the overall stats look worse because of it.

McDavid and Draisailt ate him alive in that series though with 17 goals on 74 shots (0.770 save percentage) when those two were on the ice together, 8 goals on 95 shots when they weren't (.916 save percentage)

I'll give Sutter and the rest of the team some blame too because they had no game plan for those two all series, and Sutter refused to hard match them too.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Red Potato Standing By

People seem to like to ignore that Dallas series and just bring up the Edmonton one.

It’s difficult to get angry about winning a playoff round.

[Muta]

I'd be totally fine with getting Zegras. Him and Shango together would be sick.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Muta

I'd be totally fine with getting Zegras. Him and Shango together would be sick.

I'd have no problem with getting Zegras as long as whatever we gave up in return assumes that he is only going to be a Flame for this current contract, and not a lifer. Being American and having his contract structured like how Tkachuk's was, makes me think he would be a flight risk after the next two seasons.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by bluejays

I still think it’s a fair stat from the perspective that all goaltenders have those same obstacles. If you have a good sample it’s telling something. Where I can see a hole poked in it is the amount of quality chances differing team to team. Stronger defences could have more outside or clear shots for their goaltender. Some of those other goaltenders this year aren’t playing up to par. But with Markstroms recent history of not performing in the playoffs, I’m skeptical, that’s all.

I think it's fair to say it was a combination of the Flames giving up too many high quality chances and Markstrom not being good. He had a knack for being too aggressive playing the puck or challenging shooters, and would lose his net. I think he was probably pretty frustrated and it showed.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Red Potato Standing By

People seem to like to ignore that Dallas series and just bring up the Edmonton one.

The goaltending in that series was so good. Both goalies were excellent.

[dammage79]

Well, Zegras ain't getting traded. Out 6-8weeks with a broken ankle. Mintukov out the same span with a shoulder injury.

Ducks are gonna hard to out tank. No Carlssonnand no Zegras.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Well, Zegras ain't getting traded. Out 6-8weeks with a broken ankle. Mintukov out the same span with a shoulder injury.

Ducks are gonna hard to out tank. No Carlssonnand no Zegras.

Traded Drysdale for a guy not in the lineup too.

Surprised we haven't heard more about Henrique or Silfverberg being moved too. Although Silfverberg isn't very good anymore.

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