05-23-2007, 10:13 AM
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Had an idea!
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Internet2
I've been following this for a while now...but still do not understand what the end goal is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet2
The speed records for data transfer are amazing...
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his time data is transfered at 9.08 gigabits per second over a distance of 30,000 km for a period of five hours.
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What I am wondering is....will this service always be restricted to Universities..the government, and such fields? Or will we see the home user have access to it?
Maybe I'm getting a bit ahead of myself though....I believe Shaw offers the 25mbps connection service, which is probably WAY more then enough for most home users. I can't even imagine what I would do with such bandwith.
But years ago...around 1999, I thought that files 3mb in size were huge, especially when they took me all night to download on a dailup connection. Now we're downloading files as big as 5-10 gigs in one day.
Thoughts?
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05-23-2007, 10:25 AM
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Initially it will be these institutions, but it will trickle down.
It is needed because projects are generating more and more data. I read something last week that mentioned the new collider (CERN) will annually generate 20x the amount of data that currently exists on the internet. That data needs to get passed around somehow. Google currently has massive drive arrays they will ship to companies to gather giant amounts of data then ship them back to load onto Google's servers, just because the internet bandwidth isn't able to handle volumes.
Applications like these are going to become more common. Grid computing will want to connect and share processors and data from around the world, and volumes of data we can't even conceptualize will need to be moved.
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05-23-2007, 10:37 AM
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Norm!
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And porn addicts rejoice at the news.
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05-23-2007, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
And porn addicts rejoice at the news.
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Streaming HD content
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"The problem with any ideology is that it gives the answer before you look at the evidence."
—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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05-23-2007, 10:41 AM
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Lives In Fear Of Labelling
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So this is how Skynet takes over.
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05-23-2007, 10:46 AM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Bobblehead
Streaming HD content 
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The fact that it only took you three minutes to toss that up there tells me all that I need to know.
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05-23-2007, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
The fact that it only took you three minutes to toss that up there tells me all that I need to know.
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Actually, 2:45 to notice your post, 15 seconds to reply
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"The problem with any ideology is that it gives the answer before you look at the evidence."
—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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05-23-2007, 10:55 AM
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I don't know about this.
Do you have any idea how long it will take to repalce the entire series of tubes that makes up the interent with these new ones?
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05-23-2007, 11:06 AM
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Director of the HFBI
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Aren't current internet backbones set up for internet2?
Is the new internet set up on IPv6 as well?
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05-23-2007, 11:07 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
And porn addicts rejoice at the news.
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Originally Posted by Bobblehead
Streaming HD content 
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Better yet, streaming HD porn!!!
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05-23-2007, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Lanny_MacDonald
Better yet, streaming HD porn!!! 
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How about steaming HD porn? It doesn't get better than that.
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05-23-2007, 11:45 AM
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Retired
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titties?
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05-23-2007, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Lanny_MacDonald
Better yet, streaming HD porn!!! 
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I don't know if porn is one of those things that you want see in extreme detail and super high resolution. We might see things that we've never seen before, things that we don't want to see...
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05-23-2007, 11:58 AM
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Had an idea!
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Thanks for the derail guys.
Internet2 is a completely different network, so I would imagine they would have to combine the world wide web or the Net...and possibly install fiber everywhere throughout North America, and perhaps the world.
I thought the Alberta government already laid in fiber cable to all government buildings..schools, etc? SuperNet I believe it is called.
Here is a map of the network that currently exists...
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05-23-2007, 12:15 PM
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First Line Centre
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eventually this'll replace the internet as we now know it- this basically how our current version of the internet started.
those are some truely frightening speeds though. trying to imagine applications that would need that kinda technology for the average joe just make my brain hurt.
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05-23-2007, 12:38 PM
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Those kinds of bandwidth and speeds would allow for more websites to be largely or entirely video/interactive based and you could end up with some really cool stuff.
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05-23-2007, 12:41 PM
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Director of the HFBI
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Or the birth of the fully thin client OS. Where you connect to an OS centrally located on some server. you can then access all your files from anywhere in the world, with out 3rd party applications (ie: gotomypc)
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05-23-2007, 01:01 PM
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First Line Centre
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I was in a communications class last fall that covered something called "CA*net 3", which I'm guessing is a similar network to the one being discussed in the thread. I won't pretend to know a lot about it, as we only touched on it in class.
CA*net 4
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...the government of Canada committed $110 million to Canarie for the design, deployment, and operation of CA*net 4.
CA*net 4 will interconnect the provincial research networks and, through them, universities, research centres, government research laboratories, schools, and other eligible sites, both with each other and with international peer networks. Through a series of point-to-point optical wavelengths, most of which are provisioned at OC-192 (10 Gbps) speeds, CA*net 4 will yiel a total initial network capacity of between four and eight times that of CA*net 3.
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05-23-2007, 01:18 PM
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This may well replace the internet...but do you think governments or organizations would be stupid as to not regulate and control the internet a second time? Currently, no organization can control the flow of information. You can download anything you want. Enter internet 2.0 with a revamped system allowing people to control all aspects of the internet.
If you own or run a website with any type of media, you will need a license to operate your website. If you are downloading, you must be authorized to download.
So yeah, if you want to pay for every email you send, and pay for only authorized content, you can download HD at blazing speed.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060213/chester
http://www.forbes.com/execpicks/feed...D.Missing.html
http://www.theregister.com/2004/09/2...rnet_end_nigh/
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05-23-2007, 01:20 PM
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First Line Centre
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it all comes down to the "last mile problem" how much bandwidth can you offer to average joe in his home at a decent price? its all well and good to have the network backbone that powerful and having large companies (and more necissary) but i'm interested to see how this will evolve for the common user whom probably won't praticularly need this (or be able to afford it any time soon).
computers these days seem to be a pissing contest at times - just comparing the numbers to make your e-peen grow. does your grandma really need a 3GHz dual core processor with 2TB of storage to check her email once or twice a week?
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