2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Vinny01]

4th period trade watch https://www.thefourthperiod.com/trade-watch-list-2024

Flames notes:

1 Lindholm- connects the Avs, B’s, Jets and Caps
2. Hanifin - connects the Devils, Yotes and B’s
3. Parayko- lists the Flames as the only team interested despite being 3 on their trade board
4. Tanev - connects the Leafs, Devils, Lightning, Canucks
23. Adam Boqvist- connects both Alberta teams as the ones interested

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

4th period trade watch https://www.thefourthperiod.com/trade-watch-list-2024

Flames notes:

1 Lindholm- connects the Avs, B’s, Jets and Caps
2. Hanifin - connects the Devils, Yotes and B’s
3. Parayko- lists the Flames as the only team interested despite being 3 on their trade board
4. Tanev - connects the Leafs, Devils, Lightning, Canucks
23. Adam Boqvist- connects both Alberta teams as the ones interested

Good thing there are multiple teams listed for all our trade chips. Lots of players on that report have “TBD”.

[Spurs]

#3 has to be a mistake

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I don't want to agree with Spurs, but he is not incorrect in saying there were those advocating to trade Johnny and rebuild even before he pulled the last minute won't resign.

Going back to the Eichel trade. It was viewed as a way to maybe keep Johnny and or Tkachuk.

I had some inside info on the johnny talks that led me to believe he was not resigning and I was publicly roasted over my subsequent position to trade him for whatever and focus hard on signing Tkachuk. I will admit that I was also taken in by the Tkachuk trade and thought it was the best we could possibly hope for!! I am sure there are many others who were of the same mind as me. Elated. Now, it turned out poorly, but I don't think it was wrong to have hope after that trade was made.

I still think trading Monahan + 1st for Kadri is where we really dug the hole. But, I understand why we did it in light of trying to continue being a contender.

No one is saying htere wasn't a debate and posters on both sides. It's the "as clear as day" crap, implying that any other opinion was stupid that is objectionable, and untrue. And then the gaslighting that the topic is not about the Huberdeau trade and contract per se.

[Ped]

Keep in mind that Jones is historically not good, Woll is a rookie, and Hildeby probably isn't ready yet for the NHL. Leafs probably want a proven NHLer at least.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

4th period trade watch https://www.thefourthperiod.com/trade-watch-list-2024

Flames notes:

1 Lindholm- connects the Avs, B’s, Jets and Caps
2. Hanifin - connects the Devils, Yotes and B’s
3. Parayko- lists the Flames as the only team interested despite being 3 on their trade board
4. Tanev - connects the Leafs, Devils, Lightning, Canucks
23. Adam Boqvist- connects both Alberta teams as the ones interested

Trade talk!!!!! Finally!!!!

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Just because it's a new year...but here is a cap space update for potential buyers.

Teams in LTIR:

Leafs: $341k (No players returning to fit in)
Lightning: $390k (No players returning to fit in)
Avalanche: $5.7M (Lehkonen - $4.5M)
Vegas: $3.5M (Theodore - $5.2M)
Capitals: $5.2M (Oshie - $5.7M, Milano - $1.9M)
Canucks: $3.7M (Soucy - $3.2M)
Kings: $3.3M (Arvidsson - $4.25M)
Penguins: $2.9M (Rust - $5.1M)
Bruins: $2.7M (Forbort - $3.0M)
Islanders: $9.9M (Pulock - $6.2M, Pelech - $5.8M)
Oilers: $1.0M (No players returning to fit in)
Rangers: $6.5M (Chytil - $4.4M, Kakko - $2.1M)

So the problem for the Flames is all these teams have no cap space, aren't accruing cap space, and the players they have returning are important pieces. So unless they are done for the season you need to leave room to fit them back in.

Flames will have to retain, and likely take a bad contract back if they want to be able to deal with any of these teams. Big thing here though is any of these teams have no incentive to wait until the deadline to make a deal, they aren't accruing cap space anyways so really they can make a trade now if they are going to remain in LTIR anyways.

Teams Accruing Cap Space

Dallas: $37K / $100k
St. Louis: $1.1M / $2.9M
New Jersey: $1.5M / $4.0M
Winnipeg: $1.9M / $4.9M
Flyers: $2.3M / $6.7M
Panthers: $1.3M / $6.0M
Hurricanes: $3.2M / $8.3M
Detroit: $4.3M / $10.9M
Arizona: $6.0M / $15.5M
Nashville: $14.6M / $37.6M

These are the teams where waiting until the deadline would probably garner the biggest return on a trade. The cap accumulation plus possible retention will make it easier for teams to fit guys in then.

Overall though as much as I'd love to see a trade here right away this view make it tough to see exactly how it's going to happen.

I don't think the Flames have any issue retaining on the pending UFAs, at least, they shouldn't. Markstrom would be a cap hit for a couple more years so it's a tougher pill. As for bad contracts back, it is the same - it's term dependant. If it's a bad contract with a year left, great.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

You get a pass when you win some times. The Canes did that.


Treliving won nothing in 10 years in the playoffs except a couple 1st rounds.

All arguments for him are flawed

I'm so damn tired of this crap.

Be negative ... it's your thing.

Make your case, but can we all stop with the narrative that those that disagree with you are flawed.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

4th period trade watch https://www.thefourthperiod.com/trade-watch-list-2024

Flames notes:

1 Lindholm- connects the Avs, B’s, Jets and Caps
2. Hanifin - connects the Devils, Yotes and B’s
3. Parayko- lists the Flames as the only team interested despite being 3 on their trade board
4. Tanev - connects the Leafs, Devils, Lightning, Canucks
23. Adam Boqvist- connects both Alberta teams as the ones interested

Flames better be getting something along with Parayko if he somehow ends up here

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Flames better be getting something along with Parayko if he somehow ends up here

He has an NTC so he can save us from ourselves.

No idea how that 7 year deal got rated higher than Tanev’s expiring deal.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

No one is saying htere wasn't a debate and posters on both sides. It's the "as clear as day" crap, implying that any other opinion was stupid that is objectionable, and untrue. And then the gaslighting that the topic is not about the Huberdeau trade and contract per se.

That didn't happen but we know you don't let the truth get in the way of a made up narrative.

[chummer]

Originally Posted by bingo

be negative ... It's your thing.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1742200171079901211

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Poll question: would you trade Markstrom to the devils for a first and 2 2nd round picks?

Damn, if Conny can pull this off, I won't make fun of his smile again!

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Spurs

That didn't happen but we know you don't let the truth get in the way of a made up narrative.

Originally Posted by Spurs

What are you talking about? My clear as day comment was not in regard to the Carolina vs Florida deal.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Spurs

I don't think so but there seems to be people out there that think Vladar has more to offer than what he has shown.

I think he is what he is and that is a mediocre back-up but Jones definitely is what he is and isn't getting any better. With the trade for him and contract he gave him Treliving is likely one of those that thinks Vladar has room to grow.

Do other teams covet Vladar? Hopefully, this is the Flames just F-ing with Trev. He calls everyday asking about Vladar. The Flames tell him they are seling today:

[Tkachukwagon]

Originally Posted by butterfly

He has an NTC so he can save us from ourselves.

No idea how that 7 year deal got rated higher than Tanev’s expiring deal.

Parayko is an Alberta kid, grew up in St. Albert. My guess is he would waive to come to Calgary.

[traptor]

Its not hindsight if you were thinking it before the outcome unfolded...

And many, including the media talking heads, were predicting a drop from Hubrrdeau. Many thought it was a wildcard team with no young elite talent. Manu though going alll in on hubrdeau, kadri and weegar before they had played a game here was extremely risky and could blow up in our faces.

These opinions were all had before the current outcomes had unfolded.
Just because so many if you were wrong doesn't mean this outcome was unpredictable and this is just hindsight being 20/20.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Thanks for proving my point.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon

Parayko is an Alberta kid, grew up in St. Albert. My guess is he would waive to come to Calgary.

I can understand that we will need players going forward, but this would be terrible?

6 more years at 6.5 per year will take him to his age 37 season. That would be the opposite of what we want to do.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I can understand that we will need players going forward, but this would be terrible?

6 more years at 6.5 per year will take him to his age 37 season. That would be the opposite of what we want to do.

This is cheap, short, and young when compared to Huberdeau's deal. If taking on Parayko meant offloading that contract, it would be great.

Otherwise, no thank you.