What to do with Huberdeau?

[memphusk]

So many times in a game he looks like he doesn't even want the puck. Puck allergy most likely.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Igottago

The guy is so talented and full of vision yet he's too braindead to make a few adaptations to a different system? He's still playing the same damn sport. A plank of wood floating around the ice could have had at least an assist in the month. No other player, including call ups, fringe players, 4th liners or anyone have struggled like him. They aren't going to revamp the entire damn team and on ice structure to get this guy going. Its up to him, 100%.

Wait...didnt a broken stick on the ice get 2 assists against the Oilers just recently versus Florida?

GodDAMMIT!!

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Ped

Scott Gomez iirc

Yes! I couldnt remember his name!

[Barnet Flame]

We’ve find of had a good month, scoring wise.

Huberdeau, not so much.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Did the NHL really change in the last 2 yrs?

Cause he sure could play 2 yrs ago

I have no solution, just can’t believe he just lost it overnight before he is 30

Different teams play different systems and the 21-22 Florida Panthers were one of the last teams who play the archaic run & gun style.

Zito was smart, he fired his coaching staff after their President’s Trophy winning season and brought in Paul Maurice who has implemented a playoff style system. It’s a big reason why they won 3 playoff rounds IMO enroute to the Stanley Cup finals IMO.

That’s not all that different from the Flames situation, they play playoff style hockey which is the modern game. Teams have realized that they need their superstar players to get with the program and “play the right way.”

That’s what Huberdeau has to do now, he needs to get with the program and change his game both mentally and physically; and by mentally, I don’t just mean seeing some random sports psychologist which by the way has done absolutely nothing for him.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You're joking right? You think the game has changed in the space of two years? No? Then explain how he put up 115 points 2 years ago.It absolutely is on coaching and the terrible system this team uses for this roster.

No, like I said in my last post, different teams play different systems and the 21-22 Florida Panthers were one of the last teams who played that archaic run & gun style. They routinely sucked other teams into playing that style too and it was the perfect style that complimented Huberdeau’s game.

But run & gun doesn’t work in the playoffs. Defense and checking wins in the playoffs and that’s why teams are routinely asking their superstars to adjust. You can’t be one dimensional anymore, you have to be hard to play against, you have to be connected, you have to play the right way.

It’s not on coaching at all. I predicted Huberdeau would struggle as a Flame while I was watching him pile up 5 points against the other team. I knew his game wasn’t going to translate here and quite frankly, his game wouldn’t translate on a lot of teams.

Just think for a second why he went from 1.44 ppg to 0.5 ppg in 21-22 once the playoff calendar was flipped over. After all, it was the same team, same roster, same coach, same systems, same everything a week prior. Does that not ring any any alarm bells for you?

[schteve_d]

Originally Posted by memphusk

So many times in a game he looks like he doesn't even want the puck. Puck allergy most likely.

Is that LTIR-able? File the paperwork!

[Kasi]

I just looked at game logs. How does he have zero points in December? Just unfathomable.

[Muta]

C'mon team, let's give him some credit; at least he's extremely consistent!

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Kasi

I just looked at game logs. How does he have zero points in December? Just unfathomable.

Keep the streak alive!!

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by Kasi

I just looked at game logs. How does he have zero points in December? Just unfathomable.

If you watch him play, zero points seems about right tbh

[flames_fan_down_under]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

If you watch him play, zero points seems about right tbh

Just needs better line mates, different players on his team that complement his skill set, a different coach not named Darryl Sutter, but also a coach better than Ryan Huska, a different system, more PP1 time, more minutes, less pressure and a dash of confidence with some rousing "Huberdeau" chants and he should come around.

[Flamesfan05]

Is Huska trying to tank?

I get it Huberdeau deserved some benching but not using him on the PP1 and last minutes is so ####ing dumb

No matter what he still has more skills than most . It’s so dumb to give up on him already

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Is Huska trying to tank?

I get it Huberdeau deserved some benching but not using him on the PP1 and last minutes is so ####ing dumb

No matter what he still has more skills than most . It’s so dumb to give up on him already

Huska is not trying to tank, he is just a poor coach.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Is Huska trying to tank?

I get it Huberdeau deserved some benching but not using him on the PP1 and last minutes is so ####ing dumb

No matter what he still has more skills than most . It’s so dumb to give up on him already

If he was trying to tank Hubredeau would be the guy leading the team in ice time, especially in key situations.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Spurs

If he was trying to tank Hubredeau would be the guy leading the team in ice time, especially in key situations.

They are zero in key situations right now

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Huska is not trying to tank, he is just a poor coach.

Sadly, starting to think this is true. Not so much the Hubey, but the bad overall player management and puck movement (or lack thereof). They CAN play fast and sometimes DO...they just don't put the puck in useful positions.

[Bluzman]

Huberdeau needs to be loaded into one of Elon Musk’s rockets and fired into the sun.

I’m done with this guy.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Is Huska trying to tank?

I get it Huberdeau deserved some benching but not using him on the PP1 and last minutes is so ####ing dumb

No matter what he still has more skills than most . It’s so dumb to give up on him already

I find this attitude funny.

Huska is giving Huberdeau Powerplay minutes against either the other team's tired PK1 or lesser PK2.

Not putting him Powerplay 1 is called 'sheltering' and giving Huberdeau easier minutes.

Minutes I should note, he does absolutely nothing with.

PP1? Huberdeau has done nothing to demonstrate he belongs on either of them. He should be stapled to the bench when we're on the powerplay. Salary aside he's shown no inclination to be deserving of any powerplay time whatsoever.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

Sadly, starting to think this is true. Not so much the Hubey, but the bad overall player management and puck movement (or lack thereof). They CAN play fast and sometimes DO...they just don't put the puck in useful positions.

You can have Scotty Bowman behind the bench it means little when you have no talent on the ice. The teams best forwards are Coleman, Zary and Kadri. That is not the guys that make up a contending team.

Huska may be a bad coach, he may be a good coach but with the players we have it doesn't really matter either way. Hubredeau's problem isn't coaching, the Flames problem isn't coaching either.