2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Admitting players from other organizations are good is fine. Saying they would be better than anything we have on our team right now is trolling. You aren't fooling anyone.

Not anyone we have on the team right now, I said wingers and it relation to be blocked if we were going into a rebuild.

I gave my reasons above which even if you don't agree with isn't close to trolling in anyway.

Unfortunately for you not being a bling homer isn't trolling, people are allowed to have different views.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

Let’s blow up the goalie duo and get some gold,

To CAR
Jakob Markstrom ($2MM retained)
2024 2nd

To CGY
Martin Necas
2024 4th

Then,

To NJ
Noah Hanifin (50% retained)
Dan Vladar

To CGY
Dawson Mercer
Vitek Vanecek

Necas and Mercer are not getting traded.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Please show some NHL stats showing that Stankoven has performed better than all of those guys in the NHL. Thanks.

Why?

My argument isn't that he is producing at a better rate that those guys in the NHL.

Bedard had zero points last season are you going to say that because Dennis Gilbert had more NHL points he was a better player?

[The Cobra]

If the Flames could get Stankoven for any of its players, they should jump at it.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

You have rapidly become, next to Paulie, easily the most unreadable poster on CP.

Maybe think about doing us all a favour and taking a break - for the rest of your life. Next up for the IGNORE list!

Oh no not the ignore list

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Inferno

It depends on not only how much he likes Calgary but what he thinks of the team/city that would be interested in trading for him.

He also may not share your opinion of the team either.

Well sure if he thinks the team will be better once the UFAs are gone that is sure an opinion lol.

[Flamesfan05]

Markstrom has 2 yrs left after this year

There is no logical advantage for him to be on a lottery team

There are teams that can help him win or better numbers for the next contract if he still wants to play

Of course I don’t know his family reason that may keep him in Calgary

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Well sure if he thinks the team will be better once the UFAs are gone that is sure an opinion lol.

It all depends on who they replace them with. Not just the rest of the year but after the season.

I doubt he sees them as a contender but he may not believe they're a "sure fire bottom 10 team" either.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Spurs

Who is ahead of him? The discussion was that we already have enough wingers so don't need to add more for the rebuild.

What winger that we currently have is better than him to block his way onto the team?

The best guy right now is Coleman who shouldn't be around for a rebuild. Mangiapane? Nope, Dube, Nope. Shrangovich hell no. Hubredeau with how he is playing nope. Ruzicka, Pospisil, Greer nope.

The one argument right now would be Zary who Stankoven has outperformed at every level. But sure lets say Zary is ahead still not near enough there to block Stankoven from coming in and improving the team during a rebuild. The winger depth is not better than what he brings.

Phillips put up, what 76P in the AHL? That translated to 3P in 24 games against non-Flames opponents. Coronato also looks too good for the AHL, but he still looks very raw when he comes up. Stankoven is having similar production in the AHL to Mangiapane, and Dube when they were called up.

I haven't watched Stankoven nearly enough to know how his game would translate into the NHL level. Right now everything points to top a 6 potential, but I don't know if he'll be better than guys like Pelletier, or Coronato.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

Phillips put up, what 76P in the AHL? That translated to 3P in 24 games against non-Flames opponents. Coronato also looks too good for the AHL, but he still looks very raw when he comes up. Stankoven is having similar production in the AHL to Mangiapane, and Dube when they were called up.

I haven't watched Stankoven nearly enough to know how his game would translate into the NHL level. Right now everything points to top a 6 potential, but I don't know if he'll be better than guys like Pelletier, or Coronato.

He’s ranked as the 7th best prospect in the NHL on a recent list, which included undrafted players and excluded players who are losing eligibility this year, like a Bedard.

Experts believe he’s well above the Coronado’s and Pelltier’s of the world.

Now experts can be wrong, but it’s all about percentages.

[Niemo]

Carolina seems like a logical place for Lindholm + Markstrom if they can figure out the cap. I’m not sure how Orlov is doing there, but Carolina needs what we are selling and they have tons of assets.

Reading Carolinas thread, they are desperate for a 2C and G.

They are very sour on Necas and are sour on Pesce, Orlov, KK (won’t even mention their goalies). If they are willing to part with their youth, they might be the team.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Would this be the year the Hurricanes go all in? Look to he struggling compared to other years.

[Niemo]

It looks like Carolina is good with all the possession metrics and such but dead bottom when it comes to save percentage.

[stemit14]

I know LA could use a goalie but I don’t see a fit with Markstrom for them. Their problem the last few playoffs has been the oilers and they might face them again in the playoffs this year or next year. They might be hesitant to commit to a guy that has struggled against that team above all other teams.

However, Markstrom is playing well and they might look at it as having him + Talbot as a tandem in the playoffs this year… go with the hot hand. If they face the oilers in the playoffs, they could always go to Talbot.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Spurs

Why?

My argument isn't that he is producing at a better rate that those guys in the NHL.

Bedard had zero points last season are you going to say that because Dennis Gilbert had more NHL points he was a better player?

Yeah, until Bedard proved otherwise. That’s how it works. You aren’t better than any of the guys in a higher level until you play at that level and prove it.

How much better was Nail Yakupov than everyone?

There are people who said, without question, that Wolf was the best goaltender we have. He might be one day, but he isn’t yet. Zary didn’t look better than most NHL players last year while he was in the AHL, and now in the NHL he’s probably our best player.

It feels like kind of a no-brainer to state that to know how good a player will be in the NHL, they need to play in the NHL. Common sense stuff.

[shutout]

Originally Posted by Jiggy

Markstrom has a NMC. He can't be traded unless he wants to be traded.

If his best friend in Lindholm is no longer on the team along with his security blanket in Tanev he might decide that Calgary is not the place to be.

Losing Tanev and Hanifin is going to result in a lot of long nights for the goaltenders for the rest of the season.

When he signed in Calgary the Flames were competitive and in a window to win. He might want to take a chance at winning while he has a chance and a team like the Devils are just entering their window.

If he is traded there and convince Tanev to sign there they have a good team to compete for the length of his contract.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Would this be the year the Hurricanes go all in? Look to he struggling compared to other years.

Lindholm at 50% + Markstrom for Jarvis and a cap dump. A man can dream lol

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Yeah, until Bedard proved otherwise. That’s how it works. You aren’t better than any of the guys in a higher level until you play at that level and prove it.

How much better was Nail Yakupov than everyone?

There are people who said, without question, that Wolf was the best goaltender we have. He might be one day, but he isn’t yet. Zary didn’t look better than most NHL players last year while he was in the AHL, and now in the NHL he’s probably our best player.

It feels like kind of a no-brainer to state that to know how good a player will be in the NHL, they need to play in the NHL. Common sense stuff.

What a hilarious post.

To San Jose:
Dillon Dube

To Calgary:
Will Smith

Needs to happen now for it to make sense. Dube is a proven commodity and plays in the NHL. Smith could be Yakupov. Sharks would be stupid not to take this offer.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

He’s ranked as the 7th best prospect in the NHL on a recent list, which included understated players and excluded players who are losing eligibility this year, like a Bedard.

Experts believe he’s well above the Coronado’s and Pelltier’s of the world.

Now experts can be wrong, but it’s all about percentages.

That's fair, he did show shades of Gaudreau's shiftiness and stick handling in junior. I didn't think he showed much during preseason, and I haven't watched him in the AHL this year.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by keenan87

What a hilarious post.

To San Jose:
Dillon Dube

To Calgary:
Will Smith

Needs to happen now for it to make sense. Dube is a proven commodity and plays in the NHL. Smith could be Yakupov. Sharks would be stupid not to take this offer.

That’s pretty stupid, considering we know trade value isn’t determined based on “known quantities” alone, which is why you see players traded for draft picks all the time, for example.