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Old 12-11-2023, 05:21 PM   #381
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It used to not work with Apple Pay as that obfuscates your credit card number. Is that still true? It's the one place I use my physical card as a result (well that and it's always over $250).
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Old 12-16-2023, 04:30 PM   #382
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From the comments: “There is no punishment.” That sums up the whole situation.

SF Walgreens puts chains on freezers as shoplifters target store 20 times a day, employee says

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Rampant theft will push retailers to simply pull out of poor and distressed neighbourhoods. Leaving the 95 per cent of disadvantaged people who aren’t criminal ####bags with less access to medication, food, etc. So the ultimate victims of this kind of criminality aren’t businesses, but the regular people who rely on the businesses for goods and services.
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Old 12-16-2023, 05:14 PM   #384
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This is one I heard about the other day. Guy has steel shutters and cement blocks in front of his store, since he's been hit so often. The most recent one is the third in as many weeks. They used an SUV to pull one of the blocks out, and another to ram entry into the store.

I don't know how the business owners do it. It's got to be so, so frustrating.

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...weeks/3301170/
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Old 12-19-2023, 07:11 AM   #385
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Old 12-19-2023, 09:20 AM   #386
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Rampant theft will push retailers to simply pull out of poor and distressed neighbourhoods. Leaving the 95 per cent of disadvantaged people who aren’t criminal ####bags with less access to medication, food, etc. So the ultimate victims of this kind of criminality aren’t businesses, but the regular people who rely on the businesses for goods and services.
Theft is already rampant and all it does is drive up the costs for consumers.

Despite theft costing the industry billions every year, they record record profits and its because theft doesn't affect corporations, they just pass the losses onto the consumer. Which is why I've never understood why some people have the attitude "Well they're gouging us so it's ok to steal from them." because at the end of the day you're just stealing from your neighbor. It's a nasty cyclical thing too where people steal, price goes up, so more people steal, so the price goes up further.
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Old 12-19-2023, 10:09 AM   #387
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The statistic, published in April by the National Retail Federation, was that “organized retail crime” — including the videotaped flash mob smash-and-grab events aired in frequent rotation on the cable and evening news shows — came to more than $45 billion a year.

On Dec. 4, the federation acknowledged that its estimate was a fabrication and it “updated” its report to remove the estimate.


Big retail chains have been using claims about mob shoplifting to obscure why they’ve been closing stores in some neighborhoods. Target has attributed closings of stores in Seattle, New York and San Francisco to crime, although in some cases those neighborhoods have been shown to have lower shoplifting rates than locations left open. The real issue, in other words, may be that the retailer made a mistake in locating these stores and is trying to blame local residents, rather than its own executive decision-making.

since this started with "Dick's"

Shrink, reduced to shoplifting, has become an all-purpose defense of executives tasked with explaining to investors why profit and margin growth may have slowed. For example, at Dick’s Sporting Goods, which has pushed the shrink narrative hard, Chief Financial Officer Navdeep Gupta told Wall Street analysts on Nov. 21 that the “shrink headwind” had pared about a half-percent from the firm’s profit margin on merchandise.

Dick’s reported that margins had decreased by 1.3 percentage points — well more than double the impact of shrink — due to “higher markdowns ... on excess product.” In other words, margins narrowed more because of faulty buying decisions made internally than from thefts committed by workers or marauders.
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The statistic, published in April by the National Retail Federation, was that “organized retail crime” — including the videotaped flash mob smash-and-grab events aired in frequent rotation on the cable and evening news shows — came to more than $45 billion a year.

On Dec. 4, the federation acknowledged that its estimate was a fabrication and it “updated” its report to remove the estimate.


Big retail chains have been using claims about mob shoplifting to obscure why they’ve been closing stores in some neighborhoods. Target has attributed closings of stores in Seattle, New York and San Francisco to crime, although in some cases those neighborhoods have been shown to have lower shoplifting rates than locations left open. The real issue, in other words, may be that the retailer made a mistake in locating these stores and is trying to blame local residents, rather than its own executive decision-making.

since this started with "Dick's"

Shrink, reduced to shoplifting, has become an all-purpose defense of executives tasked with explaining to investors why profit and margin growth may have slowed. For example, at Dick’s Sporting Goods, which has pushed the shrink narrative hard, Chief Financial Officer Navdeep Gupta told Wall Street analysts on Nov. 21 that the “shrink headwind” had pared about a half-percent from the firm’s profit margin on merchandise.

Dick’s reported that margins had decreased by 1.3 percentage points — well more than double the impact of shrink — due to “higher markdowns ... on excess product.” In other words, margins narrowed more because of faulty buying decisions made internally than from thefts committed by workers or marauders.
More than 1 thing can be true at a time. Large established business don't fail from just one problem, typically.
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This level of lawless can be dealt with incredibly quickly with the fear of pain. When you start canning the culprits and inflicting life altering damage to them, with a message to get the message across to the other scum, things change quickly.

Drastic yes, but it works with militarily level precision. When you have large, strong, powerful men weeping in tears, crying out for help cause of the pain, then the message get's absorbed. People don't want to deal with that.

It's pretty simple why they target these stores, they get away with it. Anybody remember the scene in the movie Casino where the card counter had his hand broken cause he decided to **** around and found out with the mob?

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This level of lawless can be dealt with incredibly quickly with the fear of pain. When you start canning the culprits and inflicting life altering damage to them, with a message to get the message across to the other scum, things change quickly.

Drastic yes, but it works with militarily level precision. When you have large, strong, powerful men weeping in tears, crying out for help cause of the pain, then the message get's absorbed. People don't want to deal with that.

It's pretty simple why they target these stores, they get away with it. Anybody remember the scene in the movie Casino where the card counter had his hand broken cause he decided to **** around and found out with the mob?

You don't mess around up here and you tell your friends about it
What exactly are you saying here? That you want people to be publicly beaten if they are caught stealing?
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What exactly are you saying here? That you want people to be publicly beaten if they are caught stealing?
No, no...just a little crippled.

Its tough to rob a store if you have to hobble away.
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If the death penalty doesn’t deter crime I’m not sure why we’re going to pretend breaking their legs does.
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If the death penalty doesn’t deter crime I’m not sure why we’re going to pretend breaking their legs does.
What? Seriously? Because it logistically makes it harder to commit crime.

Robbing a store and running away is a much more difficult gambit if your legs are broken.

This just seems plainly obvious to me.
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What exactly are you saying here? That you want people to be publicly beaten if they are caught stealing?
Not just beaten, I believe he said “life altering damage” which is pretty intense. I want more details though about exactly how this would play out from Judge Dread here.
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Not just beaten, I believe he said “life altering damage” which is pretty intense. I want more details though about exactly how this would play out from Judge Dread here.
Woah man, I'm just thinking that running away with broken legs is going to be objectively more difficult than running away with un-broken legs.

This seems logical, no?

However, coming up with an ethical and legal justification for that leg breaking seems like its going to require some Gymnastics.

And I'm not saying that this is the answer. Just that logistically running is more difficult when your legs have been broken.
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Be careful what you wish for. If you break the legs right off the government will buy them bionic legs, with your tax dollars. See them run now!
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This level of lawless can be dealt with incredibly quickly with the fear of pain. When you start canning the culprits and inflicting life altering damage to them, with a message to get the message across to the other scum, things change quickly.

Drastic yes, but it works with militarily level precision. When you have large, strong, powerful men weeping in tears, crying out for help cause of the pain, then the message get's absorbed. People don't want to deal with that.

It's pretty simple why they target these stores, they get away with it. Anybody remember the scene in the movie Casino where the card counter had his hand broken cause he decided to **** around and found out with the mob?

You don't mess around up here and you tell your friends about it
There's just zero evidence of this.
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There's just zero evidence of this.
“Military level precision” was my favourite part.
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There's just zero evidence of this.
I can’t believe I just read someone justifying life altering injuries for stealing from a store. Bonkers.
Can’t wait to see the handless children who stole some candy wandering around the malls. People be crazy.
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